Progesterone therapy and Lipedema

by Lena
(Germany)

Hi there,

First of all, I want to apologize for any messy English on my part, it's not my first language and even though I understand almost everything and love to hear and speak it, I am not the most accomplished writer.

But I feel that there is a lot of knowledge and experience to find here, so I wanted to ask or just start a conversation that maybe lead to something.

I am a 27 year old woman suffering from Lipedma (I guess stage 1) - an illness that's not widely known. And after years of doing fine with healthy food choices I stumbled upon estrogen dominance or let's say relative progesterone deficit. So I think I don't really have a progesterone deficit, but in comparison to my estrogen level that is the hormone that is stronger in my body.

That was a relevation. All the symptoms I have fit the category.

And I am thinking about trying some experimentaion with progestorone therapy. I am aware that this is not recommended, because messing with hormones can get you in trouble. But the doctors are living in the middle ages where I live, especially concearning estrogene dominance (they still love estrogene for everything here) and are very reluctant to even check your hormone levels.
In combination with Lipedema I feel that there is simply no chance to find a doc who would go this way with me.

So far, I tried taking Alchemilla vulgaris for it is known for it's hormonal harmonisation, but I felt it made all my symptoms worse.
Now I am taking mexican wild yam again (I know that it doesn't contain progestorone or even stimulates progestorone synthesis or something like this). I used to take it a few years ago as an alternative fo birth control and I think I lost some weight during this time. But I've only been taking it for a week or so, so I can't really say anything yet.

Is there anybody who can share some experience with progesterone and Lipedema, or Lipedema related symptomes, like fat gain in calves and knees, or edema in general?
I think it is pretty 'new' to take the progesterone approach to Lipedema, so I'd be really suprised if there is somebody out there with knowledge to share, but I still wanted to ask. Anything can help me and other woman out there understand the mechanism.
And I hope I can use this site to share what I experience during my journey.
I will start very carefully, I plan to even try homeopathic progesterone (it's totally ok if some of you have a sceptical view on homeopathy) before I dip into the progesterone creams.

So, I know this was a wall of text, with not much information and not really a direct question, but I am hoping for more of a wisdom share anyway. Anything can help :)
Thanks

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Aug 13, 2018
Progesterone therapy and Lipedema
by: Joy

Hi Lena

There is nothing wrong with your English.

If your estrogen is higher than your progesterone then you will certainly be experiencing Estrogen Dominance. If your doctor is not willing to test your hormones you can order tests on line, see ZRT Labs in USA and The Birmingham Hospital in UK.

I don't know much about Lipedema but progesterone therapy may help as it normally counters the inflammatory action of estrogen and is an excellent diuretic and helps edema. If you do decide to try progesterone cream please consider trying a good organic cream such as Natpro which is a 3% cream. Please read How to use Progesterone Cream. If the yam has not been synthesised it will not be a natural progesterone.

Vitamin D3 is very important as a deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone, optimal range is between 70-100ng/mL. Nothing less than 5,000iu's is needed daily. Co-factors are needed when taking D3, magnesium and vitamin K2 with no soy are the important ones.

Aug 13, 2018
Progesterone therapy and Lipedema
by: Lena

Hi Joy,

Thank you so much for your getting back to me so quickly.
I am taking magnesium transdermally and regular magnesiumchloride baths. I even take it internally so I hope I am fine with the magnesium intake.
I just started taking vitamin D and K2, but thank you for showing me the connection.

After some more research I even think it would be a bad idea to try the progesterone 'mildly' first as I understood it can make the symptoms worse.
Maybe I will start with the cream you recommend on your site, because it was the only cream I could find with ingrediants I felt good about.

So, let's see. I will try to keep my experience updated, because I think this could be interesting for some Lipedema patients.

Thank you so much!

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