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Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!

by Kay
(Ventura, California,USA)

Hi Wray, I wrote first about polyps in my uterus and the lining being 11.5 I believe. Then I wrote last March that my ultrasound showed polyps gone and lining normal. Now, my recent ultrasound shows the lining is back to 7.5!! My last biopsy was normal but she is talking about another biopsy. I ask to wait until January as I had decreased my progesterone some myself. I am wondering if I should go back to 100mg per day or ask her to increase that. She only wants to wait until January before checking with ultrasound again. Then, maybe the biopsy, depending on the results of the test.

Thanks, Wray, for all your help in the past. Oh, I am 67 postmenopausal.

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Oct 27, 2011
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay Well I'm delighted the polyps went and the lining too. But not that it's come back again. I recommend 100-200mg/day progesterone, so would ask you to increase it. Even in Menopause we still make oestrogen in our fat cells, but very little progesterone, certainly not enough to counter any oestrogen. To reduce the lining quickly I would suggest you use the higher amount to begin with, but please watch for Oestrogen Dominance symptoms. These can occur when increasing progesterone. Take care Wray
Nov 16, 2011
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Kay

Thanks Wray. I appreciate your help and all the information. I am using 150 mg per day but I get cramping that feels like menstrual cramps almost everyday. It is mild but doesn't subside without Advil or something. I am wondering if this is from the increase of progesterone or increase of the lining? I plan on increasing to 200 mg per day but wonder if I should go off a few days to see if my body will shed the lining then.
Feb 03, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Kay

Hi Wray, I have been using the progesterone cream at 100mg again for 3 months which has been my doctors prescription. I changed pharmacy's as it was a little cheaper and now since starting their compounded formula, I have been developing a rash around the stomach and waist area. I sometimes rub it in on the stomach as well as the arm and thigh areas. Could this be from the new pharmacy? I only use them because my medical pays a portion of it so makes it less expensive. How much Natpro would I have to buy for 100mg for 30 days? The rash itches so I am using caladryl lotion on it. They tell me the prescription formula is natural micronized progesterone.
Feb 04, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay I do apologise, but I seem to have missed your Nov post, I have no idea how. You said you had cramping on 150mg. Had you increased to that from a low level? As increasing progesterone does cause Oestrogen Dominance. It is best to rub it on your stomach, or any area where you have pain, it is an excellent analgesic. Are you finding the 100mg you are now using helping, as this is the barest minimum I would recommend? As you've changed pharmacy, and therefore the formula of the cream has changed, it's undoubtedly one of the other ingredients they are using which is causing the rash. Did they give you the ingredients, or is the container un-labeled? Please try and find this out. 1 tube of Natpro contains 2000mg progesterone, so at 100mg/day it would last you 20 days. It seems you are using the progesterone only on your arms and thighs, sometimes on your stomach. It can be used anywhere, I put it on my face, neck and breasts every morning and night, rubbing the rest on some other place. It's very good for the face, see here. Sebaceous glands and hair follicles absorb it well too, see here Take care Wray
Feb 15, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

Hi Wray,
Thanks again for your help. I had my vaginal ultrasound again today and it had actually been 3.5 months since I went back to the 100 mg per day of the natural progesterone. ( I did switch pharmacy's for a few weeks and didn't have good luck with their formula so switched back about a week ago.)
Anyway, the results were not good as the lining had increased from 7.5 to 8.5 and I had a new fibroid.
She has increased me to 200 mg per day for another 3 months but at that time wants to do a D&C if no improvement. She decided to wait on the biopsy for another 3 months since I had one last year and the lining/polyps had gone away for a while after starting the progesterone cream. My question is do you advise more than 200mg now? She seems to think there are side effects if I use too much. Also, why do different pharmacy's use different ingredients to compound the formula?
I would think any added chemicals would be defeating the purpose!
Thanks Again, Wray
Feb 16, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay With a lining that thick 200mg/day is good. I don't know why they use different ingredients, I suppose they all have the pet basic formula for making up transdermal creams. And just add the active to that. I won't use anything on my skin now unless I know the ingredients. Often mineral oils are used as the base, as they are cheap, plus synthetic preservatives. I have found if the cream is too thick the progesterone will not be absorbed well. So maybe the last one was a bit thicker? More than 200mg/day will not cause adverse side effects, they use over 1200mg/day via IV transfusion for Traumatic Brain Injury victims. It depends on the problem, the amount required. I would stick with the 200mg/day and see how you get on, I don't believe a D&C will be necessary if you keep using that amount. Have the cramps gone that you were having? Take care Wray
Feb 17, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

Thanks once again! No, I am still having light on and off cramping. However, I have only been on the 200mg per day for a couple of days now, so am hoping they will stop now. I use it everyday and wonder if I should go off for 2-4 days at the end of each month?? I haven't passed any blood yet but did one time after originally being on the 100mg for a couple of months. That was when the lining had gone back to 1.5 or 2 and the polyps were gone after using it for about 6 months.
Feb 18, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay The cramps should stop now you're on the 200mg/day, please rub some cream on your tummy if they trouble you. I see no point in taking a break, particularly as you have no cycles to follow. I've used it daily for 15 years now, even in the last two years of Peri-menopause when I had regular cycles. Each time I took a break my symptoms came back, something I could do without! Besides each time you stop it allows oestrogen to rise again. Even in Menopause we still make it till we die. Our fat cells secrete oestrone, as potent an oestrogen as oestradiol, the pre-menopause oestrogen. I would suggest after following this for a month or two you could take a break. Although much of our lining gets re-absorbed each month when pre-menopausal, the rest is expelled as blood. Your lining is now quite thick again, stopping the progesterone causes levels to drop sharply. It's this sharp drop which causes us to bleed. MMP's are enzymes that break down protein. They play a role in the breakdown of endometrial tissues at the end of the menstrual cycle, see here. Progesterone suppresses MMP's, see here. So it's only when the corpus luteum stops making progesterone at the end of the cycle, that levels plummet and the MMP's can begin breaking down the lining. Using the high amount of 200mg/day, and then stopping suddenly, could cause the lining to shed. I've noticed this invariably occurs once, rarely twice, if women in the first year or two of menopause start using progesterone. If you don't bleed, it means the lining has been re-absorbed back again. Please don't reduce the amount of progesterone as you did previously until you're stable, and then only by about 16mg per reduction. Staying on the reduced amount for a few days, before reducing further. It seems to me you need more than the 100mg you had tried, this suggests your fat cells are making excess oestrogen. Take care Wray
Feb 18, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

Thanks for your advice, again. I really appreciate all your help. I am over weight and read you commented on the fat cells making estrogen. I would assume if I am able to lose weight, that should also help. I had lost about 12 pounds but have been having trouble with arthritis in my knees so haven't been able to exercise. I went 2 months not being able to walk much as before but am now finally able to walk short walks and trying to increase some every week. It is difficult and many times painful but I had gained back all the 12 pounds so desperately need to get moving. I am about 40 pounds over as I weigh 180 and am only 5.3 ft tall. I have tried to reduce chemical intake such as changing to all natural shampoo, soap, buying organic fruits and veggies etc.
Feb 19, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay You didn't mention arthritis to me before, or being overweight. Both these are related to a low vitamin D level, see these studies on arthritis here, here,here, here, here, here, here and here. And these on being overweight, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Please have a test done. For more info on vitamin D levels, testing etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Progesterone also speeds metabolism, so please continue with the higher amount for some time. Continued below.
Feb 19, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again! Part 2
by: Wray

Hi Kay It also helps with arthritis, it’s always low. RA is regarded as a TH1 immune response-driven disease, as a higher level of Th1 is found in RA patients. Th1 induces inflammatory cytokines, Th2 induces anti-inflammatory cytokines. Studies have found that induction of Th2 cytokines can reduce inflammation. Progesterone causes a shift from Th1 to Th2 immune response, increasing the anti-inflammatory cytokines IL-4 and IL-10. Vitamin D does this too. On the other hand oestrogen is an excitatory hormone and enhances the immune response, causing inflammation. Moreover, oestrogen stimulates the production of matrix metalloproteinases (MMP’s) which are enzymes that degrade protein and cause inflammation. Excess MMP’s are found in RA. Excess oestrogen is found in RA too, see here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. I'm so pleased you've reduced the chemical burden by changing to organic food etc. You might like to read our page on Nutrition. You might like to look through our page on Insulin Resistance too, as it seems you could have it. Both high oestrogen and low vitamin D cause it. Take care Wray
Feb 19, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

Again, thank you so much. The picture is starting to come together for me. Years ago, I had fibroids on my ovaries that went away sometime after starting hormone therapy. I also had MVP with racing symptoms that went away after hormone therapy. Then, I had EbsteinBarr and was off work for 6 months. Recent has been the uterine problems,arthritis,and some varicose veins with occasionally a little fluid in the ankles. Dr. did a leg vein ultrasound and have the starting of vein insufficiency. Reading the links you provided has been an eye opener. I have craved sweets for years and do have a difficult time waiting between meals.
I am going to study all the links and try to change more of my habits. I did want to mention that when I take progesterone, the symptoms related to MVP go away but come back when off of progesterone! Thanks for all your help, Wray. I will keep you posted on my progress and hope to lose a lot of weight.
Mar 05, 2012
 Plyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

Hi Wray,
It is me again! Well, the 200mg of prescription progesterone cream doesn't seem to be working as quickly as it did last time at 100mg!! I went back to the original pharmacy, but I am still having cramping off and on everyday. I am reading and doing research, also called one of the two pharmacies I use and found out that the progesterone in the cream they use, is actually compounded from soy. This seems like a bad thing, as soy has estrogen effects and I avoid it now. I don't really understand the process but it seems like it should be taken from a yam plant or some that don't have the estrogen properties??
Mar 06, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay I'm so sorry I missed your previous post, it seems to often happen and I have no idea why. When increasing progesterone symptoms of Oestrogen Dominance also occurs. It's a question of persevering through it, particularly if the 100mg/day didn't help sufficiently. There is so much confusion about where the progesterone should come from. We used to use one synthesised from soy, but it didn't matter how much I tried to explain it didn't matter, I couldn't convince people. So we changed to a yam based progesterone. The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what plant is used for synthesising progesterone, providing it contains a plant sterol in sufficient quantities to make it economical. All plants have sterols, often called phytosterols.  Animals only have one sterol, more commonly known as a zoosterol called cholesterol, and fungi only have one known as ergosterol. They are an integral part of cell membranes and precursors to many things, for instance in animals to hormones.  But there are plant sterols and plant sterols. The phytosterols used for making progesterone do not have a triple bond in the A-ring. In fact they have no bond in the A-ring, unlike progesterone which has one.  So the molecule must be changed, this has to be done in a lab. For instance the conversion of stigmasterol to progesterone takes place over 11 reactions, each producing a different molecule. Until the final step produces progesterone. Now the other type of sterol which is not used at all in the synthesis of hormones is known as a phytoestrogen. This has a triple bond in the A-ring, identical to oestrogen. The three most active phytoestrogens are coumestans (coumestrol, trifoliol), lignans (enterodiol and enterolactone) and isoflavones (daidzein, genistein, biochanin A and glycitein).  Cholesterol is the starting point for the steroid hormones made naturally in animals, including humans. Plants such as the soy bean, Dioscorea species of yams, fenugreek, sisal, calabar bean, some lilies, yucca, some solanum species, maize and many more contain phytosterols. Some of which are stigmasterol, diosgenin, beta-sitosterol, campesterol, hecogenin, sarsasapogenin, solasodine. As these plant sterols have a similar molecular structure to cholesterol, they are used as starting points for the synthesis of progesterone. So the synthesis ends with a progesterone molecule, or molecules, as it’s made in large quantities. It is only progesterone and can only be progesterone. Take care Wray
Mar 06, 2012
 Polys gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Anonymous

I appreciate your explanation even though I don't understand everything, I get the over all meaning of your explanation and feel a little easier about them using the soy plant. I did receive a call back just yesterday from the other pharmacy and theirs is from the yam plant. He thought I should possibly be more careful about not using the same receptor sites and rub the cream in some new places.

He thinks my doctor might want me to try the pills or capsules if this doesn't work but I much prefer the cream and have read it works much much better.

I will keep this up and hope that it works. I really can't understand why my doctor hesitates in giving me a higher dose, possibly she just wants to work up to the higher dose if needed. Hopefully the 200 mg will work and I am doing 100mg am and 100mg pm.

Thanks Again
Mar 06, 2012
 Polys gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay I thought I'd give a full explanation, but it does seem complicated. The pills or caps don't work as well, in fact they are the least effective Delivery system. I tell people to open them, add the contents to some cream or oil and rub that on the skin. That way they get the full benefit. It's always best to start off high, and reduce when symptoms have gone. Starting too low causes Oestrogen Dominance, which can be bad in some women. You had a taste of it when you increased the amount to 200mg/day. Let me know how you get on. Take care Wray
May 29, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Kay

Hi Wray, this is Kay again. I had my ultrasoud today after 3 monthos of 200mg progesterone cream daily. The lining is 7.2 so not down very much from 8.5. I think it may have been better but have felt like the lining might have increased during the last month. About the time I refilled my prescription again and the formula seems a little different as it doesn't want to penetrate the skin like it has in the past. I am going to call the pharmacy to see if they changed something. I think I need more than the 200mg but initially, the lining had thinned down to 2.5 after 3-4 months on only 100mg cream daily. Do you have other suggestions? I have been changing over to more natural soaps, body creams, cleaning agents, etc.
I am trying to buy mostly organic. I started taking D3, 10,000 but have to confess I forget sometimes. Do you think Natpro is better than pharmacy? Help!!
Thanks, Wray
May 29, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay Well it has come down a bit. But I'm puzzled you say it was down to 2.5, something must have changed to do this. Have you been through more stress than usual? Otherwise you could be right and the cream has changed. I have found if the cream is thickish the progesterone doesn't get absorbed well. Of course I would say Natpro is better than pharmacy! But that's my opinion, I do know what's in it, and don't know what's in the product you're using. It could be very good. There's only one way to tell and that's to try it and compare. If you're interested in the ingredients we do have a list of them on this page here. I also know the progesterone is absorbed well, we run Saliva Tests on the cream. I'm delighted you're changing over to safer products and organic food, although more expensive it pays in the end. And I'm so happy you're taking 10,000iu's vitamin D, don't forget to take it and please don't forget to have a test done in 3 months or so. I hope the cramping has gone, you mentioned that and I do hope the RA is calming down. It will if you continue with the vitamin D, please don't forget it! Take care Wray
May 29, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Kay

Thanks for your advice, Wray. I think the first batch of 100mg progesterone from the pharmacy worked just fine and it did reduce the lining down to 2.5. Then, I had slacked off on the dose some and it increased, (my fault), so when we resumed the 100 mg., it seemed to be working, then I switched pharmacy's and it worsened, so switched back. Since the 8.5 reading in Feb., I have been using 200 mg., same pharmacy, was getting better, then I could tell the pressure was worse this past month. My reading today was 7.2 so I think it had been lower but was increasing again. This is the original pharmacy and the cream has worked, but this last batch I picked up was a very thick consistency and sits on the skin. I called but they said they had not changed the formula. I have been under more stress so it might be that instead of the pharmacy's cream changing, but it is thicker. I am going to order some natpro and try that. I don't know what to do about the stress as it is financial and probably will be around for some time to come.
May 30, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Wray

Hi Kay What you've put all makes sense. The cream could be thicker even if they haven't changed the formula. Making progesterone cream in small batches is far harder than large, because just the tinniest amount of extra emulsifier or stabiliser added to it would make it thicker. Or adding slightly less water would also make it thicker. You have to be very accurate when doing it in small amounts, I know! We do it for testing purposes, but use a very accurate scale which measures down to 100mg, not many have the use of such a scale. I would be very interested in hearing your views about the Natpro too, so thanks for trying it. If you want to stick to the 200mg/day you would have to use 6ml of cream, or 1 1/5th tsp. Unfortunately financial stress seems to be hitting everyone now, progesterone does drop with stress, so you might need to use more to help. It does lessen the stress response. Tyrosine is essential for any stressful situation, cold, fatigue, emotional trauma, prolonged work, sleep deprivation, it improves memory, cognition and physical performance. There is a high demand for tyrosine, it's not only the precursor to dopamine, and the two thyroid hormones, but to the stress hormones adrenaline and noradrenaline. These two hormones are synthesised from dopamine, and when stressed they are released. The greater the stress the lower dopamine drops. Dopamine is essential for motivation, happiness and vitality. The rate limiting step in dopamine synthesis is the enzyme tyrosine hydroxylase. Insufficient levels of vitamin D inhibit tyrosine hydroxylase, resulting in a disturbance in the dopamine pathway. Vitamin D increases the release of dopamine. I hope you're taking enough, and please consider tyrosine too. Take care Wray
May 30, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Kay

Thanks again, Wray. I just ordered my first Natpro and am hoping to have good results. It has been frustrating to say the least with the pharmacy's different formula's and the changes.
I will try Tyrosine too.

Thanks Again,
Kay



Hi Kay Let me know how you get on. Take care Wray
Jun 02, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Kay

Hi Wray, I received my tube of Natpro today but how do I measure 100 mg?? I will start out taking that daily.
Thanks,
Kay
Jun 04, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Wray

Hi Kay I suggest a kitchen measuring spoon set, these do come in ml and tsp. 100mg progesterone is 3ml of cream, or 3/5th of a teaspoon. 1 teaspoon is 5ml. We do have a chart right at the end of our page on How to use progesterone cream. Please watch for Oestrogen Dominance, it can come out of the blue. Take care Wray
Jun 04, 2012
 Plyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Kay

I found the chart for measurements on progesterone cream. It seems like it is a lot of cream, where the prescription cream I was using was a very tiny amount for 200mg. I am currently using 100mg of Natpro and 100mg of the prescription as I was on the 200mg so thought I should not decrease it yet. I have to say, however, that I have had hot flashes, night sweats, and palpitations during the night after applying the cream. This tells me that either your cream is stronger than the prescription, or absorbs into the skin better. O estrogen is stronger for now. If the side effects don't fade away, should I increase? It has only been 3 days. I am spliting dosages in half daily for morning and evening. I just realized that I actually was still using the 200 of prescription split in half and 100 of your split. So 150 twice a day and that was a big increase all at once!! I am not sure whether to try to decrease gradually back to 200 or to keep it at 300. I hope to increase yours and decrease the prescription gradually over time.
Jun 06, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Wray

Hi Kay Increasing does cause Oestrogen Dominance to occur again. It's a question of finding the optimum between what amount works and what cost works. If you found the 200mg/day working for you, I suggest you decrease back down again, but advise doing it slowly. Too fast and again oestrogen dominance kicks in. If you feel better on the 300mg/day you could stay on this for a few weeks, and then gradually reduce. I often give myself a top up over about 2 weeks. Take care Wray
Jun 19, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Kay

Hi Wray,
Well, I need more advice. I backed off a bit on the dosage because at 300mg a day, I was dragging. I didn't sleep well, and had absolutely no energy during the day, sleepy, didn't feel like doing anything. I am at 240 per day and doing better. No cramps anymore and I don't know if that is good or bad. I always thought if I had cramps that perhaps my body was trying to get rid of the lining. I still have enough pressure that I need to pee during the night at least once. Usually about every 4 hours. At 68 I guess that isn't too bad. I am using half Natpro and half the pharmacy's. This batch from them was not as thick. I think I noticed a that the pressure was less after taking the Naptro, though. So, should I stay at 240? Do you think the no pressure no cramps is a good sign?
Oh, I have had some mild nausea off and on but it seems a little better now. Thanks Again
Jun 20, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again
by: Wray

Hi Kay I'm delighted you've reduced the amount, there's no need to use more than required. I find the amount I use varies, often daily, depends on my stress levels! I generally use about 170mg/day, but lately I've been up to 800mg/day. It should always be used as and when needed, there's no hard and fast rule, and certainly no single daily 'dose'. I'm glad the batch wasn't as thick as last time, as least the progesterone will be getting through. Nausea is caused by substance P, large amounts are found in the vomiting centre in the brain. It appears oestrogen and substance P seem to work together. If it becomes annoying rub some on your tummy and around your next and face. Substance P is found in the gut too. Take care Wray
Nov 29, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Kay

Hi Wray,
I have not communicated with you for a while but it was 6 months in between my ultrasounds and this last one the lining was up a little to 8.5. I am using 240 per day. The doctor really thinks that I need a D&C and maybe she is right. What are your thoughts? I am using the cream twice a day (dividing it in half). I started using a calender about 2-3 months ago as I realized I was forgetting to use the cream at night quite often!! I felt the pressure and had some cramping about a month ago but it didn't return. I do worry about it quite a bit wondering why this isn't improving at the dose I am using.
Dec 01, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay Good to hear from you again. You were taking 10,000iu's vitamin D every day, are you still? Have you had another test done, if not please do. Because if your level has dropped, it could account for the lining. Vitamin D is the most anti-proliferative natural substance there is. Please also consider taking the amino acid taurine. I found out recently it's low in any uterine problem, including endometrial hyperplasia, see here. Progesterone has also been used successfully for this, I've probably given you the papers, but I can't remember! So I'm giving them again, see here, here, here, here and here. Please have a vitamin D test done, before having the D&C, it could be all you need to do is get your level up higher. But without a test we won't know what level you have now. And of course forgetting to use the progesterone won't help! I find I can't forget, I almost do it in my sleep. I have a tube by me as I work, by the kitchen stove in case of burns, by my bedside, in the bathroom to apply after my bath at night and in the morning, and another tube in my bag! This comes with me wherever I go, daft I know, but I panic if I don't have it with me. Take care Wray
Dec 07, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Kay

Hi Wray,
I had the biopsy and it came back normal but the DR still wants to do a D&C since I have had a thicker lining for sometime. I am wondering why it responded at first to only 100mg and now is not responding to 200mg a day. The Dr. didn't want to increase the progesterone even though she did mention that some people have taken as much as 400mg. Anyway, What are your thoughts on the D&C?
I am to go back again in March for an ultrasound and I know she wants to do the D&C then, if the lining has not gone down anymore. I am ordering some more of your product to use along with the pharmacy's. I am taking 10,000 of D3 and just recently doing it everyday. I am going to order the taurine. How much should I take of that?

Thanks again, Wray

Kay
Dec 08, 2012
 Polyps gone, lining normal and now back again!
by: Wray

Hi Kay It is a bit of a puzzle, have you been more stressed? As you know that does drop progesterone levels. Sugars and large meals also drop progesterone levels, see here. Plus insulin drops levels too, see here. This means SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) drops. Both testosterone and oestrogen get bound to this, so becoming inactive, and are then excreted. But if SHBG is too low, both these hormones increase. So please avoid all grains, legumes, processed milk and sweet starchy fruits and vegetables. Fructose, sucrose and glucose, reduce SHBG by 80, 50 and 40% respectively, see here. And please avoid the foods with added fructose, sucrose and glucose. See if that helps you and you avoid the D&C, I'm always against invasive surgery if it can be avoided. Your doctor is right, we have many using 400mg/day, see here, here and here. And others using much higher levels, up to 1000mg/day, see here and here. Glad you're going to try the taurine, I suggest you take about 2000mg/day. And please have a vitamin D test done. There are some who have malabsorption problems, it needs fat to be absorbed too. So if you avoid fat you won't be getting much. That is our most powerful anti-proliferative nutrient. Let me ono show you get on. Take care Wray
Jan 18, 2014
 better results
by: Kay

Hi Wray,
I just wanted to let you know that my recent results were better. 6.5 on the lining and only one fibroid of 8mm was seen. I have been on 300mg progesterone per day for several months now. It seems to be a slow process. I am taking 10,000 of vitamin D per day now and my levels are up around 60. That seems slow to rise too. I am careful to only use the more natural beauty products. My doctor is concerned that it is taking so long but I am pleased that I am moving in the right direction anyway. I tried to order Natpro recently and you were out of stock. When will you be able to fill orders again? I like to use it along with my prescription formula.

Thanks again,
Kay
Apr 14, 2016
 Not to Dr. for 1 year but something different
by: Kay

All has been well until recently now have dryness in Vagina, and I have had some little white rash on the exterior but it has gone away with a vagil cream to heal that. But would Progesterone cream cause the less moisture in vagina?
Apr 15, 2016
 More about the new dryness
by: Kay

The other thing I found out that my cervix has gone from the larger and soft and moisture is now very narrow, dry, and not right.
May 04, 2017
 Very Informative Communicating Kay & Wray
by: Dee

Hi Kay & Wray,

I have been following your thread and have learned a lot.

I have been going through similar issues myself. I am 34, have 2 daughters (still breastfeeding one - but weaning in progress), and suffer from a pretty big polyp (4cm), and had a cluster of chocolate cysts.

The polyp is causing irregular bleeding between cycles and pain.

The chocolate cysts were causing pain as well. I think it's a mixture of these 2 that cause the heavy, painful periods.

I started on progesterone cream myself (my doctor said as long as I still get a period my hormones are fine - asked about estrogen dominance thinking I have it with everything going on and she said no I do not) after reading everything I can get my hands on online about the benefits and my irregular bleeding stopped.

About 2 months after the cream started I noticed the polyp (yes I am a cerix checker) and quickly scheduled an appt with the dr. She said the same thing - my hormones are fine (no testing) and lets get you scheduled for the OR (hysterscopy removal of polyp and D&C).

She also said she doesn't know how wide the base of the polyp is and if its too big I may hemorrhage and she may end up having to remove my uterus.

This alone scares me but I have 2 little ones to take care of, my husband works 13 hours every day and I don't know how I can be recouping for surgery for 6 weeks.

I am beyond stressed about it and I know that doesn't help this situation with my hormones. The doctor will not prescribe me progesterone as she does not think I need it. I am buying it myself and going the trial and error route.

I have good days and sometimes good weeks but I really do not know what I am doing. I've read about the vitamin D - I take 2000 a day but I will up that to the 10k a day.

I also saw you mention taurine a couple of times so I will order that and take what you recommended at 2000 a day.

My question to you Kay is - how big was your polyp that went away using progesterone cream and how much cream did you use daily? I think I read that it took 6 months before it went away?

My question to you Wray is - what else can I be doing to combat these issues besides ending up in OR?

Thank you ladies so much!

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