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2 healthy kids and 2 disappointing miscarriages

I have two healthy kids (one 6 and one 4) when our youngest was about to turn 4, we decided to try for a 3rd, getting pregnant immediately. I went in for a normal appt (at 7 weeks) and stated I was having some cramping (thought it was egg implantation cramps) they gave me an early scan which indicated no heartbeat and baby stopped growing at 6 weeks. Being this was very close to my due date, they had me come back in a week for another scan and to check for growth, and sure enough a week later, no change, I had lost the baby. I was shocked, never had imagined this happening. I miscarried naturally on May 12th and was pregnant again 4 months later in hopes for a different outcome. Everything seemed great this time around, no cramps lots of morning sickness and sore breasts. Until week 10 when I started to spot and passed one grape sized clot. Dr couldn't hear a hear beat on the doppler, so we did a scan and sure enough, there was a problem. This time, there was no baby, just a giant empty sac and placenta. I had already passed the baby. Devasated again, I waited and passed the rest naturally, then got an infection and had to have a D&C. I would love to have another child as I am only 27 and have always dreamed of having a large family. I had my blood drawn recently and thyroid and hormone levels checked and all was well. I'm wondering if like I read on here, my levels may be low after I conceive, therfor causing me to miscarry. Still leary on trying again, but may start using the cream and see I can stay pregnant this time.

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Feb 13, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 disappointing miscarriages
by: Wray

Hi there It could well be low progesterone production after you fall pregnant causing the miscarriages. It would certainly be worth trying. We do a have a page on Pregnancy you could look through. It gives info on how much to use, when to use it etc. Please have a vitamin D test done, a lack of this leads to miscarriages too, see here, here and here. For more info on vitamin D levels, testing etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Take care Wray
Feb 19, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
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Hello,
Got my cream and I'm a little confused on how much to use. The pamplet says one thing and online here, you say 200-600 a day for people with recurrent miscarriages. So, just curious how much to use, when to put it on, and where to put it. Also, id really like to make sure I use enough so I don't gain weight and have estrogen dominance. I am very thin and workout daily, but never want to be overweight!

Thanks!
Feb 19, 2012
 how much to use?
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Hello,
Got my cream and I'm a little confused on how much to use. The pamphlet says something different than what I've read on here for reccurent miscarriages. So, just wondering how much to use, when to use it and where to put it. Also id really like to make sure I use enough of the cream so that I don't have estrogen dominance and gain weight.. I workout daily and do not need to diet and don't ever want to! :)
Feb 19, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Wray

Hi there The pamphlet is for normal use. If someone's had recurrent miscarriages I wouldn't advice anything less than 200mg/day once pregnant. So suggest you start with that, and then watch for any signs of progesterone dropping. These are nausea, headaches, spotting or brown discharge. If these should occur increase the amount to 300mg/day. It's impossible to tell if someone will or won't get Oestrogen Dominance I wish it was, it would make my life far easier! The page does give a list of symptoms. If you should get any signs, please do not reduce the progesterone as many do, blaming the progesterone. This defeats the whole purpose which is to suppress any excess oestrogen. Please increase it. The page on pregnancy I gave you gives all the details of where to put it etc. Or you can see our page on How to use progesterone cream if you're not pregnant. Take care Wray
Feb 22, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Anonymous

Ok, so I am charting my temps to see when I ovulate. When I do, I start the cream the next day? So, wait the one day for ovulation, then the cream the next day, all the way until my period starts, then stop. If I fall pregnant, continue the cream @ 200 mg/day? So how much cream is that? 1 teaspoon? And I'm confused when people say to use the cream in the vagina. Does that mean just rub it around the ski and in the hair follicles or what? Thanks!
Feb 24, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Wray

Hi there A better way of checking for ovulation is using a mini-microscope, see here. It is safe to use the progesterone within the 50 hours before ovulation, see our page on Progesterone Misconceptions. We do have a chart giving the various measurements in tsp and ml, see the very bottom of the page How to use progesterone cream. Using the cream in the vagina means just that, either using a finger or syringe. Take care Wray
Feb 24, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Joy (South Africa)

Dear Anonymous - When you instert the cream up the vagina do so at night and get into bed. I simply put the required amount on my finger and UP she goes!! hahaha

Hope that helped.
Feb 24, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Anonymous

Yes, thank you! Cleared up some confusion! So if I use 200 mg, that'd be about 1 1/4 teaspoon? And divide that into two doses, 1/2 tsp in the am and the rest at night, since every one suggests to use more at night. I am about 12 days into my cycle and have no signs of ovulation nearing.. I was unable to open your mini microscope file, it said file not found. Do I use a regular microscope and just spit on it and look at the spit or what?
Feb 25, 2012
 2 healthy kids and 2 dissapointing miscarriages
by: Wray

Hi there Joy is such a scream, puts things rather graphically! Progesterone is good for sleep, see how you get on with the higher amount at night. I also tried the link I gave you and find they are no longer operating. So I've found another one, the microscopes do make life much simpler, than forever taking temps, which are not that accurate either, see here. Take care Wray
Mar 05, 2012
 cramps?
by: Anonymous

Hello,
Just a quick question, I just started using the cream, 6mg a day (1/2 tsp in am and 3/4 tsp at bed time). I have noticed, with my am cream that I seem to be having what feels like menstrual cramps after I put it on. Is this normal? I could very well be experiencing this while I'm sleeping, just not sure, cuz, well I'm sleeping! Haha... thank you!
Mar 06, 2012
 cramps?
by: Wray

Hi there Well I'm delighted you're sleeping well! Yes the cramps are normal. Although not everyone gets the same symptoms when starting progesterone. If they persist or trouble you, please rub the cream over the painful area. Take care Wray
Mar 09, 2012
 when to stop the cream
by: Anonymous

Wow, you are a busy lady! Lots of women have so many questions. So, that leads me to another one of mine. My cycle is 26/28 days. If I take a pregnancy test on day 24 and its negative, is it ok to stop the cream on day 24 instead of going to day 26? I'm a little confused about when to stop so I still get my period on time and normal.
Mar 11, 2012
 when to stop the cream
by: Wray

Hi there Yes, bless you for noticing! I downloaded 71 queries today, too many people are suffering far too much, and all so unnecessary too. Home test kits are notoriously unreliable, and cannot pick up a pregnancy until at least 2 weeks have passed. Progesterone should be used from ovulation for the 12-14 days of the luteal phase. In other words we are merely supplementing our own production. It's best to use it the full 14 days, as bad symptoms normally only arise in the last few days of the luteal phase. This is when progesterone is dropping. We do have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. If you don't get adverse symptoms at the end of the luteal phase, then by all means stop early. Take care Wray

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