Wow - this site and Wray are AMAZING. Fibroids (9cmx8) and others. 46..
Just to make sure I am on track, and Wray I would love to pay for some of your guidance, consultation, and/or donation to your site?
I feel so blessed to have found you. Spent the week reading your site for hours. Thank you for your amazing knowledge, of many but especially Wray - Priceless gift! I am pretty sure that Natpro is the direction I need to go.
I am 46, no children, 3 fibroids - largest is 9x9cm (endometrial) small amount of ovarian cysts (endometriosis) on one ovary (as seen on resent MRI) this often clears up after a cycle or two so not fully blown. Lucky.. no real pains, though crazy bleeding just on the 2nd day, period for 7, every 28 days. I am often anemic and take iron supplements and some times IV’s. (right now ferritin 20/iron 24 is pretty good for me)
Diet - mostly paleo, no fruit, and not high protein. I am 138lbs, 5ft 8 (I have put on about 8 lbs with the fibroid in the last 18 months). almost no diary.
last 8 months I have done all kinds of alternative options like; heavy detox, neural therapy/frankenhauser, acupuncture, tinctures of all kinds of remedies; iodine, frankincense and Chinese strong potion teas, mayan stomach massage, lymphatic drainage etc. But none suggested looking at my hormones when it was clearly a hormone issue.
Q. I recently saw another ND, with great hopes for some alternative resolution around hormones. Sadly with all of the protocals they would like me on that would cost about $1000-$1200 a month. They did a saliva test (it was taken within a 3 day window when estrogen would have been highest). See below. The Dr. made the comment that my body was full of estrogen, however results show I am actually really low in all the estrogen markers. The Dr’s response was 'your progesterone level is low on the saliva but the problem is that your estrogen dominant per your body type and the uterine fibroids. The estrogen is not releasing into the saliva instead is being stored in the fibroids promoting inflammation in the uterus. We need to counteract the estrogen in the uterus by increasing progesterone and getting your body to release the stored estrogen.’ She suggested progesterone cream prescribed (50 Mg/progesterone micronized & 100mg of progesterone cream HP).
I supported/volunteered a metabolic Dr answers his online helpline for about 7 years and respect and honor the hours of time you dedicate to this. Though he is not a hormone specialist, MD who does not follow the ’standard of practice’ felt that this was an absurd answer and that if the body were overstored with estrogen then it would have shown in the saliva.
I would love to hear what results others have had with taking progesterone 150 or more - has it helped shrink their fibroids when they were this large? I am also looking in to surgery to remove the fibroids only and scrape the right ovary if needed but would love to avoid this all together.
Estrone saliva am < 5.0
Estradiol 0.2 saliva am
Estriol saliva am <0.1
progesterone saliva am 39.
tester one saliva am 20
cortisol saliva am 0.59 rest of the day ok.
DHEA saliva am 0.21
17-OHP saliva am 11.6