To Hell and Still there.

by Pam Beauchamp
(Big Spring, Texas, USA)

I am 60 years old. I had a hysterectomy at age 27. I as placed on HRT. (Estrogen only) Had trouble from the beginning. I could not take the oral hormones. My body would not absorb them. I had to take hormone shots and could not sleep. Since that was way back in back in the day. I got a band aid fix. Xanax was prescribed for sleep. That is the only way I got sleep. I lived with the ups and downs of estrogen dominance with shots I took. Now, it seems I have the hormones of a 90 year old. Testing was done with the saliva tests. I was then given the creams. Estogen, progesterone, and testosterone. I am so miserable still. I called the pharmacy to find out what was in them. I was told estradiol, progesterone from yams, and the testosterone was not disclosed to me. I feel sick. One thing I did notice the pain in my back was better as long as I took the progesterone. I do have really bad side effects from either the estrogen or the progesterone. The side effects are indigestion, bloating, and extreme IBS symptoms. I do not know what else to do. The Dr. would not explain anything to me while I was there. He handed me a paper with instructions, and said it was simple enough to read the directions. He would not tell me how he knew what dosage I needed. I am so tired of not sleeping know, even with the Xanax, I don't know what to do. I have been studying the NATPRO progesterone and would love to try, but I really feel I need someone to talk with about my symptoms and how to get relief. I want to order, but feel I need some guidance. I don't know if I should stop the estrogen, or just use enough progesterone to counter effect the estrogen I take. Help!

I am never well, I am always sick. My tummy is always hurting along with my back. I don't sleep, unless I use the Xanax, and I just am miserable. I think all this should end.

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Aug 11, 2014
To Pam
by: Jo

Pam - from all your symptoms it might be that you have hypothyroidism - oestrogen dominance can cause it. You also need progesterone for your thyroid to work well. Have your thyroid levels checked - not just the TSH, but free T3 and free T4 as well, and thyroid antibodies. Find a doctor who understands the thyroid and treatments - it may take some searching - look at thyroid health forums, for example, and maybe someone will be able to suggest a practitioner in your area.

I hope that this will help you. I too was living in the place you are now, xanax included. It may be that you just need optimal thyroid hormone levels.

I have found that if I can get my free T3 level to the high normal or just above, the insomnia, intestinal and bowel problems are resolved.

All the best and hugs! Keep searching and you will find answers to feel better and get your life back.

Aug 14, 2014
To Hell and still there
by: Joy

Hi Pam

I am sorry that you are going through a terrible time. The estrogen that you are taking is causing terrible Estrogen Dominance symptoms. We do not believe that any woman needs to take extra estrogen or testosterone. All drug based HRT’s have a potential to cause harm. Testosterone can also lead to Cardiovascular Disease - see here and here.

Progesterone Therapy will help you greatly, but it is not an overnight fix, it can take anything from 2-6 months before positive signs are felt, longer if symptoms are severe. Please read How to use Progesterone Cream. The aim is to make progesterone the dominant hormone, once this happens then things will get better for you. Progesterone is an excellent anti inflammatory so I am not surprised that your back pain is a little better.

IBS is often caused by mixing foods, ie eating carbohydrates such as rice, potatoes and bread, with protein. If you do this, please try to avoid it to see if this is your problem. Gut problems can be helped with progesterone, as it does calm us down, the gut too.

Do you know what your Vitamin D level is, as a deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone it can also cause insomnia.

Hope this helps you.

Aug 14, 2014
Thyroid testing.
by: Pam

I went yesterday and got my thyroid tested. I requested to test the LH, FSH, T3,T4 uptake and return. I also asked to make sure it was tested well, to be sure I did not have an issue with the thyroid, but I believe I do. I have changed my diet. I eat gluten free. I don't eat much, but I look like I do. I do smoothies for breakfast, and maybe an apple for lunch. I have my protein for supper, no bread or starches. I have another blueberry smoothie for desert. That is it. I am trying, but just discovered the testosterone is giving me issues too.

Please help advise me how to order as I read it was not in stock until Aug. 22nd.

Joy, I appreaciate your response. I do have suspected the thyroid issues and had the testing done yesterday. They just did not do the autioimmune testing.

Thanks for your response Joy.


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