Ready to start Natpro?

by Traci

I'm 49, very slightly overweight but muscular and tend to store fat on my hips and thighs. My last menstrual period was June 13, 2017.

I had a CBC, chem panel, IGF-1, and hormone testing done. My TSH was fine and my DHEA and Free and Total Testosterone was low normal and TSH was 1.190 ul, but Estradiol was 9.3 pg and Progesterone 0.2. My ratio is 18.6 according to this calculator: My number should be 100 correct?

My IGF-1 was low normal at 75. Not sure if this is related. But my estrogen is low which makes sense because within the last month or so, I've begun to have night sweats and horrible bouts of insomnia, the latter of which I've had off and on my whole life. These are signs of low estrogen. I've been taking around 200 mg. of DIM for the past year or more and Calcium d-Glucarate off and on, but last month, I was taking the CDG at 1000 mg. a day. Could this have lowered my estrogen?

I have only one ovary, if that matters and it was removed along with a small portion of the remaining ovary to stimulate hormones, supposedly. This was done when I was 17 years old.

Do my test results mean I should add estriol cream or at least supplement with soy isoflavones for to increase my estrogen? Other symptoms I'm having are UTI and vaginal dryness, low energy and I'm freezing. But most of all, I need to get some solid and restful sleep!

Please help!

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Aug 10, 2017
by: Anonymous

From what I can see and what you describe, i.e., sweats, and feeling cold, this indicates to me low progesterone and low thyroid. I would not recommend more estrogens because the ratio between your estradiol and progesterone shows estrogen dominance. I am sure someone will help you with this on this site, namely Joy. My bet is she will definitely recommend that you take progesterone cream.

I would also strongly recommend Iodine in the form of Lugol's iodine for your thyroid. Cold hands, body temperature, are signs of that. I would stay away completely from anything that contains soy, as in the phytoestrogens. Soy is not at all good for the thyroid. Only fermented soy should be consumed. Progesterone also supports thyroid.

Don't give up. You will be helped.

Aug 10, 2017
ready to start...
by: Anonymous

In my previous comment, the title said Nature. Sorry about that. The type went funny!

I also wanted to say please take Magnesium glycinate and Taurine to help you sleep, as well as the positive affect these minerals have on many other levels! Melatonin is also fantastic.

And what is your Vitamin D level? It must be in optimal range, between 60ng/ml - 100mg/nl . This is vital. Vitamin D helps progesterone to function well and it is crucial for the immune system, the list goes on in so far as its benefits! It must be Vitamin D3 in supplement form if you take it.

Hope this helps.

Aug 11, 2017
Thank you!
by: Traci

I didn't mention my thyroid but it is normal and I take 10,000 IU of Vit. D a day. I didn't have that one tested but I can't see how it would be low but I guess you never know. I also take Dr's Best Magnesium every night.

A couple of years or so ago, I had severe estrogen dominance which I got under control with nothing but DIM and calcium d-glucarate which is why you might see other posts from me raving about it. I'm a HUGE fan. My symptoms now are so unlike what I had so while I may be estrogen dominant still, my estrogen is uncomfortably low.

I wish Natpro would come out with an estrogen cream as well.

Aug 11, 2017
Ready to start Natpro?
by: Joy

Hi Traci

Good decision. Your progesterone:estrogen (E2) ratio is 22:1 and not 18:6. Please refer to the correct calculation given on the Hormone Testing page. It should be around 600:1. I never accept the words 'fine' or 'normal' when given test results. The Hormone Testing page gives accurate results and figures. It is not so much the result of progesterone and estrogen that one must look at but rather the ratio between the two, this is vital. In your case your progesterone is very low.

You are suffering from estrogebn dominance, we all do if we do not supplement with progesterone. No woman needs to take extra estrogen, there are well over 100 estrogen mimics in our enviroment as it is, why would any woman want to take more and why would doctors prescribe it? Natpro Progesterone Cream is excellent when inserted in the vagina at night. It helps with dryness and inflammation.

You are in Peri-Menopause which can be a torrid time for most woman, but it need not be with the correct use of progesterone. A missed period for 12 months puts one in Menopause, so it's safe to say that you are still in PM. DIM does not reduce estrogen as we are lead to believe, but CDG certainly does, I would stick with that rather than DIM. Using off and on will do you no good either.

Being cold all the time could mean two things. (1) Insulin Resistance, have you been tested and (2) thyroid problems, have you been tested? You need your iodine, selenium and tyrosine levels tested.

Another vital thing to think about is Vitamin D3, do you know what your level is? A deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone and is connected to every single functioning cell in our body's. If low, it has an affect on the thyroid amongst so many other other things. Co-factors are needed when taking vitamin D3, Magnesium being one of the most important. It will also help with your insomnia if used correctly.

If you are going to try Natpro, please start at 200mg per day every single day. Do not take any breaks, you need it more than every now that you are in Peri-Menopause. More may be needed so you will have to experiment until progesterone has become the dominant hormone.

Please read these pages and the references as they will explain what is happening and what is needed. If progesterone is not used correctly it will not work.

Peri-Menopause -

Menopause -

Estrogen Dominance -

How to use Progesterone Cream -

Vitamin D3 -

Magnesium -

Environmental Toxins

Insulin Resistance -

Hormone Testing -

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