Insomnia -- cream entire cycle?

by Heather

Hello,
My insomnia (which is present all the time) worsens both before my period and right at ovulation. Also, I sometimes (though not always) have a handful of mild heart arrhythmias during the week prior to bleeding, as well as brown spotting during that time. I know from a Dutch test that my b-Pg/E2 ratio during my follicular phase ranges from "11-42", and "99-240" during luteal. First, do these things suggest I take the cream all cycle long? And would you think it would require more than the general 100-200mg reco'd for standard treatment?

Thanks for your input, and for the helpful site !

Comments for Insomnia -- cream entire cycle?

Click here to add your own comments

Nov 06, 2021

by: Wray

Hi Heather

Many thanks for your kind words about the website, it's here to help people like you.

Hormone levels change constantly through the cycle. The reason why your insomnia worsens around ovulations is due to excess estrogen. Have you read the Estrogen Dominance page? Progesterone is only produced by the ovaries from ovulation. As you are experiencing issues, it would probably be safest to use the progesterone all month, as it will protect to a certain extent the effect of the estrogen. If using progesterone at ovulation it's using it after the horse has bolted, i.e. ovulation has taken place, so therefore nothing will stop it. It has to be started well before ovulation to suppress it. As mentioned repeatedly on the website, if the amount of progesterone is not helping, then increase, find a level that suits you. A reminder that advice given on this website is based on Natpro which is a 3.33% cream. If using another percentage cream, please contact the supplier of that cream and adjust amounts accordingly.

Arrhythmia could be caused by a magnesium deficiency. You should be taking it anyway if you are taking Vitamin D3.. A D3 deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone. It is also caused by excess estrogen. This now proves to me that your progesterone:estrogen ratio is way off, you have far too much excess estrogen. Estrogen causes prolongation of the QT interval, which results in palpitations, arrhythmia, Torsades de Pointes and sudden death. Whereas progesterone shortens the QT interval, see here and here.

I must admit that I don't know much about the Dutch test. I can only work out the ratio between progesterone:estrogen using either blood and saliva tests. Perhaps someone else can advise on this.

Nov 06, 2021
On Dutch
by: Heather

Thanks for your response! According to the work-up I received from Dutch, my levels indicated low progesterone to estrogen ratios at multiple points in both parts of my cycle. I was working w/ a functional doc at the time I had the test and he prescribed bioidentical pro. pills with the directions of taking them during the second half of my cycle. They were not helpful and so he moved on to trying a completely different tack (with nothing ending up really working). I suspect, from reading your site, that I probably needed to take a higher dose and throughout the whole cycle, as you suggest. Thanks again, it was helpful. Also wanted to comment that I really appreciate how clean your ingredient list is as I have compared to other brands!

Nov 07, 2021
On Dutch
by: Joy

​Hi Heather

Then the Dutch test is telling you that you need more progesterone. If you follow the instructions given you should resolve you​ ​low progesterone level​ and make it dominant which is what the aim is.​

Thank you so much for mentioning the ingredients of Natpro. Wray Whyte dedicated her life to formulating a cream that would benefit all who used it. It was formulated about 30 years ago. Wray was an extremely allergic person. She had to be very careful what she used on her skin which is why Natpro is 99% organic. ​​

Click here to add your own comments

Join in and write your own page! It's easy to do. How? Simply click here to return to Progesterone faq.

Share this page:
Find this page helpful? Please tell others. Here's how...

Would you prefer to share this page with others by linking to it?

  1. Click on the HTML link code below.
  2. Copy and paste it, adding a note of your own, into your blog, a Web page, forums, a blog comment, your Facebook account, or anywhere that someone would find this page valuable.

Search over 8,400 pages on this site...