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Estrogen dominance - confused

by Jen
(UK)

Hi
I've been told by my naturopath that I'm estrogen dominant. Problems started 2 years ago when my periods first stopped. I started with a frozen shoulder and then muscle pains, neck, gums, headaches, interstitial cystitis, vaginal dryness and atrophy, weird stabbing pains all over, eye problems, hair falling out, sinusitis, ear pain, hip pain, severe knee pain to the point that I couldn't walk, panic attacks and depression.

I had bloodwork done and my levels show vitD levels are fine (I do take vit D2 and K2), oestradiol 55, progesterone 3, testosterone 0.7, fhs levels 68.8.

I did not want to take hrt so went to see a bio identical hormone consultant in London who put me on estrogen, progesterone and testosterone creams. I've been on them for 2 weeks and feel a bit better but I'm wondering if I'm doing the right thing and should I be using progesterone and testosterone only and not estrogen. The consultant said I should be also using a small amount of estrogen.

Can anyone advise please?

Thank you.

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Dec 18, 2017
 Estrogen Dominance - confused
by: Joy

Hi Jen

You do not state your age, but a missed period for 12 months puts one in Menopause and your Naturopath is correct, you are suffering from Estrogen Dominance. You might want to try taking some of the calming nutrients mentioned on the Anxiety page.

I am pleased that you are refusing to take HRT as the drug based ones have a potential to cause harm. I don't believe that any women needs to take extra estrogen and testosterone either. There are well over 100 estrogen mimics in our environment as it is, why take more and testosterone is not the answer either. Your progesterone:estrogen ratio is 55:1, it should be around 600:1 indicating that you need more progesterone and not estrogen. Please read the Hormone Testing page.

Vitamin D3 should be taken and NOT Vitamin D2. Optimal levels should be between 70-100ng/mL. A Vitamin D3 deficiency also reduces the benefits of progesterone and is connected to every single functioning cell in our bodies. Co-factors are needed when taking Vitamin D3, especially magnesium and vitamin K2 with NO soy.

How to use Progesterone Cream - https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/how-to-use-progesterone-cream

Estrogen Dominance - https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/estrogen-dominance

Menopause - https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/menopause.html

Vitamin D3 - http://www.progesterone-info.com/benefits-of-vitamin-d-cholecalciferol.html

Anxiety – https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/anxiety-attack-symptoms.html#axzz30pvpr0s3

Testosterone - https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/94/12/4776/2596564

Hormone Testing - https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/hormone-testing.html
Dec 19, 2017
 Further comments
by: Jen

Thank you for coming back to me. I am 55 years old. My last period was last December and the one before that was the previous March.
I have a few questions if I may.

I have vaginal atrophy, do I need to put estrogen cream on my vulva or does progesterone cream sort that out?
I know everyone is different but how long will it take before I feel better? Is there an order where symptoms disappear? My symptoms are joint and muscle pain, vaginal atrophy, gum pain, nasal congestion, headaches, hg attacks.

My worst symptom at the moment is Hyperglycaemia attacks. I can't eat or drink anything with wheat or sugar. If I do I'm in a world of pain for two days. Will this be sorted with progesterone? How long should this take? I'm scared to eat or drink anything and am just eating scrambled eggs and bacon at the moment.

Sorry for so many questions but I'm reading things online and getting confused. Most sites say that we need estrogen to replace what we lose?

Again, sorry for so many questions.
Jen
Dec 19, 2017
 estrogen
by: Jen

Me again, I've also noticed that since I've stopped my estrogen cream, the dryness/pain in my gums is starting again. Will progesterone fix this please?

Thanks Jen
Jan 04, 2018
 Estrogen
by: Joy

Hi Jen

Progesterone when inserted in the vagina at night is excellent for dryness. Diet is always important, wheat and sugar seem to cause so many problems so it is best to avoid these as much as possible.

I do not believe that any women needs to take extra estrogen as there is well over 100 estrogen mimics in our environment as it is, why take or use more. Please give progesterone a try. It is not an overnight fix and can take 2-6 months, possibly longer to balance things. If you follow advice given to you already, you should find benefit.

Environmental Toxins - https://www.progesteronetherapy.com/environmental-toxins.html
Jan 04, 2018
 Response
by: Jen

Thank you so much for coming back to me. I really appreciate it.
Apr 27, 2018
 Confused
by: marta

Hello!

I'm estrogen dominant and also has severe cfs. I've been in bed for the last three years nearly and have a fibroid (big one). I wrote a while back, started your cream 8 months ago, it has been fantastic for menstrual pain, it disappeared, but not sure if I should go lower now or not? Still get really bad estrogen dominant symptoms and occasional middle cycle spotting.

For the cfs I started taking colloidal silver, it works really good for the viral part of cfs, I'm less tired but I find it makes my estrogen higher and had a terrible period on it. Do you know anything about colloidal silver and this matter?

Also I'm mega confused with liquorice it would be really good for my adrenals but I'm scared to take it in case it makes my estrogen and periods and fibroid worse? Info on liquorice and phytoestrogens is very confusing.
Thanks!

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