59 Years Old, Insomina, Depression, Brain Fog, Fatigue, Hashimoto Thyroid...

by Carla

I am 59 years old. I had an Endometrial Ablation in 2007 due to very heavy periods. In addition to the symptoms above, I also always wake with a dull headache that sometimes does not go away all day. I also wake up sometimes with a weird "wired" feeling for lack of a better word. I also have some joint pain, but really it seems more like muscle/tissue pain. I have not been able to wear a bra for more than a few hours for the last 5 years or more due to the pain it causes on my rib area. I take a low dose of Synthroid. I started having these symptoms except the bra thing in the last ten months and it has progressively worsened. Who wouldn't be depressed with all the other stuff going on?? I wanted to purchase Natpro, but it is apparently out of stock. I ordered the Serenity cream that Wray had mentioned was good in some other place in this vast sea of information, but I think I have figured out that the dosage for Serenity is low compared to what Wray said is needed. I also cannot seem to find the place on here for the suggested supplements except D3. I am so tired of guessing what supplements I need and the dosages. I know I will never feel like I did when I was 20, but I don't want to feel 75 either. I am not overweight, but carry too much fat around my abdomen.

I went to an NP who ordered lab work specific to hormones, but she is trained in (and peddles) the bio identic hormone pellets that I know she will want me to try when I see her tomorrow to discuss my labs. I have not seen the levels yet. I have decided I don't want to put anything under my skin that cannot be removed. Also, I think those pellets always have Testosterone. My Gynecologist prescribed Evista, but every time I think I should take it, my gut tells me no. I don't want weak bones, but I don't think I want to take that prescription either. I did order the book "Passage to Power" and I am working my way through it.

Here is hoping that Natpro is available soon.

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Apr 07, 2016
Thyroid and adrenal function
by: Renee

Hi Carla,
I know this website is focused on progesterone therapy, but something in your story caught my eye and I just felt that I had to comment.
You said sometimes you wake up with a dull headache that doesn't go away. That you wake up feeling a weird "wired" feeling and have muscle/tissue/joint pain. You mentioned you are on a low dose of Synthroid.
I have battled hypothyroidism for many years, and I was on too high of a dose of Synthroid that was slowly killing me and made me hyPERthyroid. I went off it for two months and my TSH shot up to 95!! I flipped and became MAJORLY hypothryoid! When I am hypothryoid I experience everything that you mentioned above..dull headaches that won't go away, muscle/tissue/joint pain, weird feeling that are hard to describe. I finally found a doctor who did a full thyroid blood panel to check my T3 and T4 levels, and I am now on a Natural desiccated thyroid medicine.
I'm no doctor, but you sound like you might be a little hypothyroid and maybe your thyroid med might need to be adjusted up. Just a thought. Also, check your vitamin D levels. Mine were really low. I am on 10,000 iu per day. Also, maybe do a saliva test for adrenal function. If your adrenals are fatigued, that could be part of the insomnia problem (high cortisol levels at night)
I also take an oral progesterone 100 mg and I supplement with progesterone cream during the two weeks prior to my period. The progesterone is finally starting to help. I just started about 5-6 weeks ago.
I hope someone here can address the progesterone issue better for you.
I hope you feel better soon! Best wishes.

Apr 07, 2016
by: Anonymous

I found a progesterone cream that is very concentrated it's called Ona's. It's all natural coconut oil based. is where I got it and it came in two days. 1/4 tsp has 125 MG of progesterone.

Apr 08, 2016
Thanks and I Got My Results
by: Carla

Thank you Renee and Anonymous for your comments and suggestions. I got my results yesterday. First off, she changed me to Desiccated Naturthroid (sp?). I have not picked up the Rx yet, but will today. All of my other panels were in the normal range except for Cholesterol, but she said that my HDL was high enough that the ratio was okay. My hormone levels are below:

Follicle Stimulating Hormone 75.4
(Not really sure what this hormone is)

Throid Peroxidase Antibody <1

Estradiol 16

Testosterone 28

Of course she wanted me to use the pellet that has Estrogen and Testosterone, which we all know now is not good. I am going to continue with the Progesterone cream and new tweaked Thyroid meds. Thanks also for the info for the coconut based cream. I will check it out since I am using triple doses of the current cream I am using. Oh, also she recommended 200 MG of oral Progesterone to protect my cervix from cancer if on the pellet. That speaks volumes right there. I am so thankful I found this site.

Apr 08, 2016
59 Years Old, Insomina, Depression, Brain Fog, Fatigue, Hashimoto Thyroid
by: Joy

Hi Carla

I had the ablation about 17 years ago for the exact same reason as you, if only I had known about progesterone therapy then. Doctors today either have no idea on how to deal with the natural process of a woman’s body or they simply do not want to know. Heavy bleeding often occurs during Peri-Menopause, some suffer more than others. I used to pass massive clots, so big that I thought I was giving birth, it was scary. Fortunately my doctor suggested the ablation, another doctor would have insisted on a hysterectomy, horrors of all horrors!!

It very clear that you are in Menopause and suffer extreme Estrogen Dominance hence all your adverse symptoms. Please listen to your gut, have you read or were you informed of the possible side effects of Evista? Some include hot flashes, sweating, headache, dizziness, spinning sensation, leg cramps or leg pain, joint pain, nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, this list goes on. Please read the HRT page.

It is unfortunate that Natpro is out of stock at present, but the situation will be resolved just as soon as humanly possible. In the meantime please read the Vitamin D3 and Magnesium pages, links below. While you wait for Natpro to come back in stock, get your body prepared, make sure that your D3 is at the level that Wray suggests. A deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone and is linked to every single functioning cell in our body, the same goes for Magnesium. The magnesium page needs to be read carefully, taking/using only one type will not cut the mustard, trust me I tried using only one type.

The suggested alternative creams mentioned on Wray’s website all need to be adjusted dosage wise as they do not contain the correct progesterone concentration. For instance, Serenity contains 1260mg of concentration, whereas Natpro has 2000mg, adjustments need to be made. Please be very careful on progesterone creams not mentioned on Wray’s website as so many of them contain chemicals and parabens. One chemical often used is Phenoxyethanol. It’s a chemical that was banned by Ecocert in June 2008 for use in natural and organic skin care products, not anything that I would ever consider using.

Please read the following website pages:

How to use Progesterone Cream -
Estrogen Dominance -
Menopause -
Vitamin D3 -
Magnesium -

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