by Vianne

Dear Wray,

Could you please guide me on specifics and dosage for purchasing/using bioidentical progesterone cream? My specifics:

• I am 59 years of age, menopause commenced 10 years ago
• The only menopausal symptoms I have ever experienced are continued weight gain, and more recently, lack of energy/strength.
• I went from 155 lbs. to my current weight of 225 lbs. My chest went from 38C to 44 DD. I can’t see my feet, and have bruises on my chest from bumping into things.
• Finally found a naturopath who at least understands BHRT and had a saliva test done:
• Estradiol = 3.6
• Progesterone = 29.95
• Testosterone = 38.85
• DHEA = 229.77
• Ratio PG/E = 8.33
• The naturopath won’t prescribe more than 50 mg of progesterone, but cautions me it won’t help me lose weight. (Duh . . . )
• The naturopath also insists that my weight issue is my thyroid (had a test done a few years ago and it came back “perfect,” and the only real hypothyroid symptom I have is the inability to lose weight.) I don’t have the money or time to waste on a thyroid test or anything else involving “doctors.”
• For me, it is obvious: Before menopause I ate what I wanted, lots of walking but no other exercise, maintained the same weight for years. Since menopause, no matter what I eat or how much I exercise I continue to gain weight. This is about hormones.
• About 2 weeks ago I started using product with 480 mg Progesterone USP, 360 mg Pregnonolone, 360 mgs 7-Keto DHEA Acetate. ach pump is 20 mgs.
• Graduated up to 100 mgs/day, and have experienced some bloating (expected) and loose stool. Both seem to be easing off.

Where do I go from here? I just learned about your products. Which do you suggest for a more concentrated product per pump?

Should I stay at the 100 mgs or use more? How long to know if the dose is effective? I want/need (for overall health) to start moving this weight. To be clear, my intention is NOT a fast weight loss, but I am committed to starting and continuing progress. And I can’t afford to waste money putzing around at an ineffective dosage that is too low.

Wray, I appreciate you’re being here for all of us and giving us hope!

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Sep 06, 2014
by: Letitia

seems to me as if your progesterone level is very high. it should be 2 or 300 hundred to one

Sep 06, 2014
by: Anonymous

I am no doctor but I don't think raising your progesterone is the answer. Unless, I am wrong, your progesterone is exceptionally high???? Get a second opinion and go ahead and check your thyroid again. It can change.

Sep 06, 2014
Me Too
by: Anonymous

I also would like to know where to purchase a more concentrated Progesterone. I am spending my entire day trying to reach 400mg.

Sep 07, 2014
by: Wray

Hi Vianne Thanks for the kind words. The ratio given to you is correct, so it doesn't surprise me you're feeling the way you are. It's very low and you do need to get your progesterone much higher to feel any benefit. We've found from Saliva Tests we run that the ratio should be 600:1 and over to feel really well. But this does vary of course, some can get good results from less. You ask about a product with a higher concentration, you could look at the one we produce, see here. It has 2000mg per 60g or 2oz. We have found up to 400mg/day is needed if symptoms are severe, you'll have to experiment with the amount. Please check your Vitamin D levels, if these are low it can affect the efficacy of progesterone. The thyroid does have a major role in our metabolism, unfortunately excess oestrogen slows it down, see here. Using progesterone to lower oestrogen will relieve the thyroid of it's suppressive affects. This is turn will help with weight loss. Progesterone itself speeds metabolism slightly, but cannot be relied upon for weight loss. One of the best and safest ways to loose weight is through the Ketogenic Diet. These are two more links you could look at, Solve Your Health Issues with a Ketogenic Diet, and Low Carb Food List. In case you haven't read it, please look through our page on Menopause. Plus How to use Progesterone Cream. Take care Wray

Sep 08, 2014
How are you?
by: Karenina

Hi Wray,

How are you? I have been so worried about you...I never stopped thinking of you. I hope you are now feeling better and taking it steady.

With lots of love and caring hugs to you. XX

Sep 09, 2014
How are you?
by: Wray

Hi Karenina Bless you! I'm fine, using lots of iodine as it seems I'm very short. A kinesiologist has me rubbing Lugol's solution all over my tummy. I then moved to thighs, then to calves, I'll be going to arms next! It still fades overnight, heaven knows when I'll have enough. I'm back on line now as poor Joy is feeling burnt out! We'll have to think of some way to answer without the burn out. Take care, love and hugs Wray xx

Sep 14, 2014
So good to hear from you
by: Karenina

It is so good to hear from you...I had a feeling that you were suffering from a burn out. I am not surprised either! I was very worried about you. I hope you are taking it easy my dear friend.

I thank you every day for all the caring help and advice you gave me over the years. I use the progesterone cream for everything. I call it the miracle cream! :) I have been in the menopause for the last year and still take 330mg of the cream. My body seems to need it.I continue to take my 15,000 iu of the Vitamin D3, B-Complex, Vitamin E, Magnesium, Cilantro, Flaxseed Oil, MCT oil, Turmeric powder, MSM powder and a little of Maximum Vibrance powder. You gave me the confidence to experiment and try different things which took me over two years and now my partner is slowly convinced that this is the natural way to go. He has been through a lot himself health wise.

My biggest fear would be the day progesterone cream will no longer be available. That is always in the back of my mind.

Please look after yourself and take it easy...I am here for you always. Love and big hugs to you xxxx :)

Sep 17, 2014
So good to hear from you
by: Wray

Hi Karenina I always appreciate hearing from you, it's been many years now you've been supporting me! Jules keeps me updated on your progress too. Yes I've been doing this for almost 18 years now, and so in need of a break! Joy helped me out this past year, and now she's feeling it too. I want to go back farming, sounds daft at 66, but I really need to get my hands dirty! Sitting at a computer day in and day out…….well if anything my bottom needs a break! If we can't get progesterone I'll declare some republic somewhere, and make it there! I'm so delighted your partner has now seen the sense in natural things, but it does take some experimenting. All too often we get discouraged by what seems like a lack of response. Many loves and hugs to you too, take care Wray xxx

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