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Surgical Menopause at 27, now 44 and ready to end this.

by Brenda

When I was 27, I had to have surgical menopause, this was 1994. Until 2003 I was tried on every oral hormone on the market, w/horrible migraines several times per week, and even chest pain of which one doctor told me to remain on med, just reduce (!).

Being a nurse and seeing a cardiac issue, I did not do this. Finally, I was put on a patch that I stayed on until 2001, and then just quit HRT altogether, really because I had a tumor and infection that almost killed me, and the last thing that I was thinking of was the patches. But, I noticed when I got better after 6 months that I lost almost all of the 80 pounds that I had gained from HRT and was unable to lose while on HRT and my doc kept telling me was not from HRT. So, now I have Fibromyalgia from the near death infection, it really damaged my body, but was dealing quite well until one day in Jan '06 I got up and just felt wrong.

I have felt that way since then. I had to change fam MD in '04 b/c my spouse was deployed and the military insurance made me, so the md really did not know me, and my prob to him were either depression or the need for HRT again. I also had been taking Trazadone for several years for sleep and had to go off that. So I now have just been slowly losing my life since then.

I finally went to a local pharmacy who does compounding and has their own NP's who are supposed to specialize in Bio hormones, and she told me that she would help me. My saliva tests came back so wrong, estrogen dominance, testosterone too high, and progesterone too low, and estrogen progesterone ratio too low. I have serious osteoporosis, my vit D cannot even be seen on a blood test, she felt I had adrenal fatigue, and a slight thyroid deficiency.

With so many problems, and the not sleeping being a major problem, since not sleeping will continue to mess the chemicals in the brain and body up, she started me on Bio progesterone, 2%, 1cc/day, she did not tell me what that dose was. She also gave me things like Travacore, and others to help me sleep. Started w/Migraines within 3 days, she told me to reduce the dose of the Progesterone Bio cream to 1/2cc/day, so migraines are gone. Stayed on several other supplements all geared for sleep for weeks and had horrible diarrhea for them. She then put me on a supplement for adrenal fatigue, got angry with me b/c the other supps were not working and the diarrhea was horrible. She never dealt with the thyroid issue, or sleep issue, and then decided she was going to try to "fix" my stomach, that was pretty much fine until all the other supplements she put me on.

All of this was being paid out of my pocket, and being bought from her pharmacy. So at this point I am not seeing her anymore, I am taking a supplement for adrenal fatigue, the Progesterone (but from what I have read on this sight looks as if I am making the estrogen dominance worse), 1000 iu of Vit/day, 100mg of B1/day, 600mg w/400iu of D/day (I take 1800 of calcium some days, but have hx of calcium kidney stones), 2mg of clonazepam from my FMD for the sleeping prob b/c I really could not take it anymore, it had been 5 years of no sleep. From some other sites it looks as if the Progesterone might interfere w/the sleep med. So, at this point I am lost.

I found this sight by accident, and I really don't know what the product on here is, but I am really looking for help. I have been seriously messed up by posers and male MD's who just don't get what it has been like to be a woman, and not feel like a healthy woman. I really believed this woman would help me, but it was obvious to me she did not know what to do when she started blaming me for not getting better. Her attitude made me want to give up and die, b/c I felt I just could not take it anymore. But, here I am again looking for answers. The progesterone in the last month seems to have taken all my sexual desire away, and my husband is now home, so I don't think he is too happy about that, but neither am I. Please, if you can, point me in the right direction.

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Feb 16, 2011
 Surgical Menopause
by: Eve

Holy bleeping hormones! I have had my own battle yet the cause was different. This website has a wealth of info! The adrenals, digestion, thyroid, estrogen dominance, too much testosterone, low progesterone is EXACTLY what I went through and like you suffered w/docs that weren't equipped to help me. I started treating my adrenals back in 2009 because I had horrible insomnia! My saliva test indicated high levels of cortisol being produced in the evenings right before bed. Make sure that you are not taking a "stimulatory" type of adrenal support. I take a product called ADB-5 by Biotics Research. The adrenals are very, very slow to heal. With estrogen dominance it is quite common to also see candida/yeast overgrowth. You could also have a lack of HCI (stomach acid) to digest your food properly. This would cause a domino effect which would then lead to malabsorbtion of the nutrients from food. Your health issues are all linked together. One adding complication to the next. Keep in mind...if you have hormonal imbalance it throws off the entire balance of the body. It often feels like you are chasing the symptoms to find the true cause of dis-ease. I personally think it starts on a cellular level....a cellular deficiency. I strongly recommend researching "CELL SALTS" or "TISSUE SALTS". I started taking those in November and since then have had to almost eliminate my thyroid medication (armour) all together. It has been a long, tiring road but if you listen to your body and track how everything effects you, you CAN get to a better place. Best of luck to you! Peace - Eve
Feb 24, 2011
 Surgical Menopause at 27, now 44 and ready to end this.
by: Wray

Hi Brenda You have had a rough time! The HRT was the last thing you needed. Or if you were given Contraceptives, these too. They both reduce progesterone levels, plus increase oestrogen levels, hence the migraines and chest pain. Progesterone is excellent for migraines, see here, here, here, here and here. The 1cc of a 2% cream would have given you only 20mg/day progesterone, far too low. It would have increased your problems. Even 40mg/day doesn't raise levels to that of the luteal phase, see here. The reason you started migraines within 3 days was caused by Oestrogen Dominance. Using only 10mg/day, ie 1/2cc, would not have stimulated the oestrogen receptors, but it will not do anything to help either. I recommend 100-200mg/day progesterone, dependant on symptoms. You are obviously short of progesterone, so please see our page on Menopause to learn how to use it. But what concerns me more is your lack of vitamin D. This causes osteoporosis, infections, pain, insomnia, thyroid problems and more, see here, here, here and here. And these too here, here, and here. I'm running out of space, but please have a vitamin D test done, more info on the Vitamin D council and GrassrootsHealth websites. Take care Wray
Feb 24, 2011
 Surgical Menopause
by: Wray

Hi Eve Wonderful words of encouragement and advice too. Like you I do hope Brenda gets better. And thanks for the kind words about the site. Take care Wray
Mar 08, 2011
 Co Enzyme Q10 by Dr Steven Sinatra
by: Anonymous

This is a little off the progesterone alone idea but I had all the same blood results plus adrenal fatigue,tried taking Co Enzyme Q10 along with the 1/4 dose of bioidentical lowest etrogen patch and progesterone 50mg at night.Since incorporating the Co Enzyme Q10 like a miracle!!!! No feelings of fatigue brain heart muscles mood 100% improved.Please check out the web site. You will feel better I am a ICU nurse too do this favor for yourself, check it out!!
Mar 18, 2011
 Co Enzyme Q10 by Dr Steven Sinatra
by: Wray

Hi there Thanks for your tip! We use CoQ10 in all our complexes, it's such a vital nutrient. I am concerned you're using the oestrogen patch, oestrogen is oestrogen, whatever form it comes in, please see our page on HRT. You might like to read this website too. Take care Wray

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