How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?

by Tammy
(Arkansas)

Hi Wray... you have told me that I need to be taking 400mg of progesterone cream. I just want to be sure I'm calculating this right. The box of Emerita Pro-Gest says that there's 450mg of USP progesterone in a ounce, if I'm understanding it correctly. It also says that there's 20mg of progesterone in 1/4 tsp. So, to equal the 400mg. that I need, I should be using 5 Tsp. a day? Right now I'm using 2 Tsp. a day. Do I jump right to the 400mg. or slowly go up? I don't want to worsen hair loss or weight gain.

Also, that's a lot of cream. I'm trying to rotate areas(left shoulder and arm, then left leg and foot, then right shoulder and arm, and then right leg and foot) and with using so much cream I don't know how well it will absorb. Is there a brand that has higher amounts of progesterone cream per ounce? It would be nice not to have to try to rub in so much cream, it's also expensive.

I've heard of a brand called oasis serene. Have you heard anything about this cream? Thanks,

Tammy

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Apr 11, 2012
Emerita etc.
by: CamperKat

Gently put, your arithmetic is off. If Wray told you to use 400mg of progesterone per day, and you are using Emerita or Oasis (which I thought was off the market) or any other brand, they all contain 20mg per 1/4 teaspoon.

To figure dosage using those creams, you must divide 400mg by 20mg (the 1/4 teaspoon dosage) equals 20--THAT'S TWENTY-- 1/4 teaspoons per day.

And again--gently put--I don't understand why people continue to ask Wray how to use other people's products that have estrogenic preservatives in them and that have one half the strength of Natpro.

Natpro has 40mg of progesterone per 1/4 teaspoon and zero artificial ingredients. If you need 400mg per day, you would use ten (10) 1/4 teaspoons per day of Natpro. Obviously, you can do arithmetic and base your dosage on full teaspoons rather than the 1/4 teaspoon measure...but you get the idea.

Good luck to you.

Apr 11, 2012
How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?
by: Anonymous

Do not waste your money on Oasis Serenity. Two ounces will run you upwards to $40. It smells good and absorbs but it's made out of wild yams. Used it for two weeks with no results which is when I went searching and found Wray's site. I have used the Oasis, Pro-Gest and Progesta-Care. NatPro is the best hands down. Pro-Gest and Progesta-Care are way to greasy and leave a residue all day. If you sweat during the day it's an awful feeling to have your clothes sticking to you and you have this rancid grease smell about you all day that you are trying to cover up. NatPro goes on quickly and you never realise you have it on. Because Natpro has more progesterone per ounce you will use far less than the other brands...that's why you have so much to put on with the others. Use Natpro, you won't be disappointed.

Apr 11, 2012
How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?
by: Anonymous

CamperKat, I agree with you one hundred percent. Look at the ingredient list of Natpro versus the other products. Due to mis-information and just researching natural progesterone cream I used Pro-Gest and Progesta-Care. Unaware of Natpro at the time they are no comparision to Natpro and yet millions of woman use those products probably because they are unaware that Natpro exists. Why use any other type of product when you are on Wray's site in the first place, looking for information to help and reading all the research she has done. And Oasis is now called Oasis Rejuvenate. They sell the product as an anti-aging cream with 750mg per ounce of mexican wild yam root being the natural progesterone ingrediant. It has only natural ingrediants and smells good, but it does not work as Natpro does and it's way expensive. Tammy, trust all of us on here who have tried Natpro for whatever problems we have had. God Bless!

Apr 11, 2012
oops!
by: Anonymous

Last time I looked, 20 one-quarter teaspoons was 5 teaspoons!

Apr 11, 2012
Your Opinion
by: Tammy

Hi..so you know, I'm new to this site and also to using Progesterone Cream. This was why I wrote to Wray asking for Wray's help. I'm sorry if you've heard all of my questions before from other people and are tired of having to answer over and over again, but it's new for me and I need her help. I'm sure Wray understands this more than anyone. If it causes you so much distress then don't make a comment. Your tone wasn't so "gentle". You need to consider these things before sharing your opinion. Thanks

Apr 12, 2012
How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?
by: Anonymous

I don't think anyone was trying to be offensive to you. I was not aware you had posted other questions. I believe our thoughts are if you are coming to Wray for questions about natural progesterone cream you should be using the product Wray makes instead of other products. Wray bases her successes from Natpro users not the other formulas. Once you use all of Emerita start purchasing Natpro. That would be the fair thing to Wray for the help she has given you. Besides you get more per ounce of progesterone in Natpro than the others(which means you don't have to spread all over the place) and it is less in price per ounce than the others. God Bless!

Apr 12, 2012
cream
by: Tammy

Now that I know NatPro is superior, I'm going to buy that brand as soon as I run out of the ones I already bought. Thank you ladies for sharing your knowledge.

Apr 13, 2012
How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?
by: Wray

Hi Tammy I did advise using 400mg/day, as I do know this helps. You might find lower amounts help you, but going high initially and then reducing, is always better than gradually increasing. I think I gave you those comments from other users of 400mg/day. One immediately went up to it and benefitted quickly, the other took about 5 months playing around with the dose. It wasn't until she had been using the 400mg for about a month that she began to notice a difference. I always find it easier to use ml rather than tsp! For instance the cream you're using is 1.6% in strength, ie it contains 16mg/g or ml of cream. So divide the 400mg by 16mg and you get 25ml. One teaspoon is 5ml, so the 400mg/day would need 5tsp. Which is the figure you arrived at. We also have charts right at the bottom of our page on How to use progesterone cream. I think the other comments on the page explain the difference between various creams. I never push Natpro, as I feel we should all be allowed to chose whichever cream, or Delivery system suits. It's interesting that Oasis has changed it's name and promotes it's use as an anti-ageing cream. Progesterone is one of the best nutrients for this, wonderful for the face, see here. Whereas oestrogen, which so many women are given, does nothing for the skin, see here and here. I appreciate the support given me by CamperKat and Anon. But please don't take offence at CamperKat's comments, she didn't mean it unkindly. You are new to progesterone, and trying to find your way through the maze. There are so many conflicting opinions that I've done a page on them, my take on it of course, see Progesterone Misconceptions. You'll notice I make a comment about the 'rotating' too, which I find totally unnecessary. Take care Wray

Apr 16, 2012
How Many Tsp. of Emerita do I use?
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for your support. As you know I don't mind if women use another cream, or injections and suppositories, I'm happy to answer their queries too. But it does alarm me the cost they incur with some of them. I'm very tempted then to ask them to try ours, but I'm not into selling! Take care Wray

Apr 16, 2012
cream
by: Wray

Hi Tammy Thank you for considering the Natpro, do let me know what you think of it. The feedback I get enables us to keep improving it. Take care Wray

Apr 17, 2012
Progesterone Cream
by: Anonymous

Hi.... my daughter just started using lo dose birth control pills recommended by her gyno for hormone balance. She's only been on them 2 mon., and we have noticed less depression/anxiety. Had I known about the cream I would have started her on that when puberty hit instead of going through the nightmare we have been through with antidepressants and other things. I wonder if the cream by itself would have done the trick. I'm hesitant though because I know she has improved with the pills. I would like to wean her off the pills using progesterone cream, because I know of the dangers associated with them. Then we can see if that's all she needs. She's on Lo estrin Fe and antidepressants. How many mg of USP progesterone do I need to use with her while she's taking the pills. Do I have her take a pill every other day and then move it to longer after a few days? Also, what is the best form of Birth control that's not hormonal? I was looking into the IUD paraguard, but read that the cooper was causing some PCOS symtoms... but what if she uses the paraguard with the cream? Please let me know.

Apr 18, 2012
Progesterone Cream
by: Wray

Hi there It's such a pity so little is known about progesterone, it's evident from what you say that your daughter was very low in it. Certainly not the Contraceptive pill, which is all that's offered. That can make matters worse for many women, as it often prevents ovulation. This of course drops progesterone levels even further. I'm all in favour of the copper T IUD, it can cause heavier bleeding, but I found that a small price to pay. Taking extra zinc is a good idea, to balance the copper. I've not heard of PCOS symptoms being caused by it. We do have a page on Coming off HRT etc, it's best to do this slowly as you say. I normally suggest 100-200mg/day progesterone, but it's dependant on symptoms, often more is needed. Your daughter would probably be better off using the 200mg/day, but it is trial and error. We have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. Before starting it please see our page on Oestrogen Dominance. Did any doctor think of checking her vitamin D levels? A lack of this reduces the benefits of progesterone, plus causes depression, see here, here, here, here and here. It's also vital for ovulation, which could be your daughters problem. Continued below.

Apr 18, 2012
Progesterone Cream Part 2
by: Wray

Hi there Or she has a defective luteal phase, and is not making sufficient progesterone, see here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. We do have a page on Anxiety which gives a list of the natural antidepressants. I suggest she starts with the vitamins first, ie D3, B3 and inositol, before trying the others. Please have a vitamin D test done. For more info on vitamin D levels, test kits etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Take care Wray

May 11, 2012
Still a bit confused...
by: Anonymous

I hesitate to write after some of the comments posted in this thread but with all of the information out there I am still confused. I am 48 and post-menopausal (no period for over 18 months). I started on natural progesterone cream from pharmacy that specializes in natural products and bio-identicals about 8 months ago. After about three weeks the hot flashes that had been plaguing me disappeared. (I did unfortunately, as I saw posted elsewhere on this site, suffer in the beginning with bloating and acne). The positive results lasted for a few months and slowly the hot flashes returned. After my second prescription ran out I was debating trying something else as I didn't feel the cream was effective. In the short interim that I did not use the cream at all I started feeling much worse than I ever had (mood swings, depression, aches and pains...and of course the hot flashes, day and night). I've also struggled with weight gain throughout. I felt so relieved when I ran across this site in my research because I came to believe that I was just not using enough of the progesterone cream. I was also extra confused because the pharmacy said my prescription was a two month supply but actually lasted four months (so could it be I am getting half the dose?). It's one of the measured dose pumps but I don't think it is accurate. The pharmacist has recommended a syringe type dispenser which would be more accurate. In the mean time, I'm wondering...
My prescription says it is 100 mg/Gram
One pump daily, .5 gram, i.e. 50 mg./day
Is this an adequate concentration? (provided I am actually getting the correct amount from the dispenser)
Should I just double my dose, and use twice a day for 100 mg/day?
You recommended 400 mg/day for others...
Is it best to jump up to the higher dose and then slowly wean backward?
I have a dread of getting the bloating and acne back again, not a pleasant experience and shot my already suffering self-esteem way down.

I'd also like to say how much I have appreciated all of your comments to those who have written here regardless of the products used. As I said I was ready to give up on the progesterone cream and now have renewed hope for relief. If I can just figure out the dosing and concentration...

May 12, 2012
Still a bit confused...
by: Wray

Hi there Thanks for the kind words, I do answer everyone as best I can, irrespective of the brand, thank you for noticing this! We're all searching for answers, I did too 15 years ago, but that was before the internet was fully operational. I started on what I thought was a progesterone cream, 3 weeks later my hot flushes started. I made enquires by phone and discovered the 'progesterone' cream I'd been sold was a yam cream. I found a genuine progesterone cream and the hot flushes stopped within 10 days. But it was a long haul after that, it took me 6 months to fully recover. I was using the standard recommended amount of 20-40mg/day, which is still recommended. I'd read all the books, including Dr Dalton's, and was then lucky enough to meet her a few times. I learnt from her that large amounts are needed for full recovery. She never once mentioned Oestrogen Dominance, I doubt she even knew it occurred. It never happened to her patients as she gave amounts of 400mg, 800mg and up to 2400mg/day for her post natal psychosis patients. It doesn't occur if amounts such as these are used, which is why I try to encourage people with severe symptoms to use high amounts. Most of us can't afford it, so I compromise with the 100-200mg/day I usually recommend. So the 50mg/day you started on would have caused bloating etc. 100mg/day is the least I would suggest using, it is trial and error to find the amount which suits. We have more info on our Menopause page. Some start very high, and then reduce very slowly over a few weeks. Pumps and syringes are meant to be accurate, but progesterone shouldn't be used as a 'dose', but entirely by symptoms. Some women use it hourly for severe ones, 50mg per pump would mean 600-800mg over the course of a day. Some might need this much, but others not, so I prefer a tube or tub which doesn't dispense, and a measuring spoon until you get used to the amount. You might like to read these comments from users of high amounts, and then decide which route to take, see here, here and here. Continued below.

May 12, 2012
Still a bit confused... Part 2
by: Wray

Hi there Please consider having a vitamin D test and taking it too. I've found it enhances the benefits of progesterone. For more info on vitamin D levels, test kits etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Take care Wray

May 15, 2012
I'm the one..."Still a bit confused"
by: Anonymous - W.

Hello Wray,

Thank you so much for your comments! And thank you so much for this website. Since I've found it I've been pouring over it and soaking up so much information and support. I have been suffering from an array of troubles over the last few years that I never attributed to menopause and then saw them written about here! So much makes sense now. One of them, for the past six months or so, I've had constantly peeling lips!! (that one so made me chuckle)

So after writing to you I started applying the cream 4 times a day. My main problem with the dispenser that I have is that it was supposed to last for two months and actually lasted for four. So have I been getting the listed 50mg/day per pump or since it lasted twice as long, 25mg/day per pump? So I've upped to either 100 or 200mg/day. After 5 days I'm not feeling much different, though perhaps a few less hot flashes during the day. I think the best indicator for me will be sleeping through the night, as that effects so many other aspects of feeling good (moods, etc.). And an easing of the aches and pains that are a more recent development (the short time I went off the cream) would be a pleasant relief (I feel like I'm 90!)

Now, in reading your comments and the pages you recommended on higher doses I've decided to chuck caution and the fear of possible temporary side effects (the bloating and acne) to the wind and up my application to every hour! If I'm getting 25mg/pump x 12 that will be 300mg/day and if I'm getting the full 50mg/pump (which I doubt) that will be 600mg/day. I feel confident in reading that there's not a "too much". I will do this until I feel better. I'll be looking at other delivery methods until this one I have runs out. If the temporary side effects kick in I will combat acne with acne cream and bloating with water pills!

Regarding the vitamin D, I did immediately upon reading about that here, up my intake. I'm still below what you've recommended and am off to buy supplements. Also, my prescription is not so costly as many women have mentioned, though in doubling my intake I'm doubling the cost. When my prescription runs out I believe I'll switch to your product as it does appear more cost effective, and well, because you've been a life-saver! (I've been amazed at how little my own Dr. knows about progesterone therapy!)

I'll report back my progress as I know how much others doing so has been helpful to me. Thanks again so much for your comments and your website and thanks also to all of the women out there who have share their stories. Whew!

W.




May 17, 2012
I'm the one..."Still a bit confused"
by: Wray

Hi W I'm so delighted I gave you the 'menopausal lips' page! It gave me a chuckle when first reading it, but a relief to find others have it too. It's not on the list of symptoms we have on the oestrogen dominance page, as I hadn't heard of it until Lynne wrote in. I need to amend the page. As for feeling 90, I occasionally experiment, and give myself a top up every few months or so. From the ±170mg/day I normally use up to 400mg/day, on one occasion 800mg/day as I decided I was stressed! Well I get bad oestrogen dominance when I do, ache and creak all over and feel very old. Takes about 2 weeks to calm down, then I reduce back down slowly. At least my receptors are still working, which is one of the Progesterone Misconceptions that frustrated me enough to do a page on them. If you have a kitchen measuring spoon, which should be 5ml, squirt some cream in to it to get an idea of how much you are actually getting. The pump seems very inaccurate. Thank you for trying our cream, there's really no need, but I would like your opinion on it when you do. Over the years we've gradually improved it, often because of comments we get. Bless you for saying I'm a life saver, but I haven't done anything yet! You now have the hard work of trial and error in front of you. It can be a bumpy ride, but at least you've read the other comments so have some inkling of it. And I'm delighted you've upped your intake of vitamin D, it really has helped so many by adding a good dose. Feedback is so essential, not only for others but for me too. Often I'm left in the dark Take care Wray

Mar 15, 2015
abnormal periods
by: Desperate

I've been having abnormal periods every since I started when I was 11 years-old. I am now 29 years old and I still suffer. Sometimes I skip months and when I finally do come on it stays on for two to three months and I have a heavy flow. I have been through blood test, paps, and pelvic sonogram and nobody found anything wrong with me but yet I still suffer from abnormal periods. I have been reading up on women's progesterone cream so I bought a 2 oz bottle and started using 1/4 tsp twice a day. I have still seen no results I'm still bleeding really heavy so heavy that I have to use several bladder control pads a day. Should I keep using the progesterone cream and increase the dosage or is there something else I can try.

May 21, 2015
Up The Size!
by: Anonymous

Just wondering Wray if you will up the size where is still affordable? Say a 10 oz bottle for $100?

May 21, 2015
Up The Size!
by: Wray

Hi there A 10oz bottle is approximately 300g. The current size of Natpro is a 60g tube, it costs $25.70 if buying 3 or more tubes, which 300g would be. Therefore the price of one large 300g container would be $128.50. The tube size would make no difference to the cost, the price of the cream would remain the same, only 5 times the price. I don't think many could afford to buy this, as most of our customers get the one tube option. One big disadvantage from my point of view, is it would be too large to carry around in a bag, I'm never without my tube! Take care Wray

May 21, 2015
Abnormal Periods
by: Joy

Abnormal Periods

Hi Desperate

Wow you certainly have been battling with your cycle for way too long!! Please read the Menstrual Cycle page.
Have you been tested for PCOS? Are you overweight?? I am not sure what progesterone cream you are using, but nothing less that 100-200mg of cream is needed, possibly more depending on how severe your symptoms are. The cream should be used every day for 3 months possibly longer with no stopping, ignore any bleeding/spotting/clotting that may occur. As soon as your cycle becomes regular again you can use the cream by following your cycle.

I hope that you were warned about Estrogen Dominance when first using progesterone. Please read How to Use Progesterone Cream, it will explain how to use progesterone correctly.

Do you know what your Vitamin D level is as a deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone.

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