(Using) Natural Progesterone cream & Fibroids

by Doreen
(Ireland)

Hi Wray, I just discovered your site this week, so I am new to your forum. I live in Ireland and the only help on offer for peri-menopause/menopause are HRT and anti-depressants; there is no saliva testing, only blood testing, so you can imagine the frustration one feels in light of the information gleaned from books like 'The Wisdom of Menopause' by Dr. Christiane Northrup, & 'What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause' by Dr. John R. Lee.

Having first read these books approximately 2 years ago, it wasn't until I found a lump the size of a golf ball in my right breast that I hurried to order natural progesterone cream from the internet; this was in February 2010, and I am only sorry that I had not ordered it sooner; in fact, I wish I had known about it from, at least, my late 30's early 40's. Happily, my lump was a cyst, and it was drained, but I have found natural progesterone cream so beneficial for relieving breast tenderness/pain.

At 53 years of age I still have a monthly period that, thankfully, have become less heavy/clotty since using the cream so the benefits have been great. However, I had an abdominal ultra sound this week, as I have been experiencing difficulty urinating for some time; this manifests itself as a difficulty experienced on my first urination in the morning which I can only pass by intense urging/pushing, and then I need to go constantly throughout the day; often waking a couple of times in the night also. Anyway, I was told that there is a "large, abnormal lump on/in my uterus", and I have been referred to a gynaecologist for further testing, though I have been told that it may be fibroids.

Which leads me to my question: the cream that I have been using is Pro-Gest, and I was looking around online to see if I could find a stronger natural progesterone cream & that is how I found your site, and I am giving consideration to ordering your cream which seems to be higher in natural progesterone; I did your questionnaire and got a result of 65, or 68, though many of my answers were more pertinent to the time before I started using Pro-Gest. However, since I have developed what, at this point, are believed to be fibroids, it seems that I must still be low in progesterone, so I would really appreciate your advice on this matter, and could you clarify if your cream has a higer natural progesterone content than Pro-Gest has?

Might I just, finally, add that during the course of this Irish summer I suffered from quite extreme hayfever, and every month in the lead up to my period, I would develop a cold sore and conjunctive eyes in response to cutting my lawns; it has felt as if my immune system has become extremely low as I move deeper into peri-menopause, because illnesses/allergies that were only a rare occurance in my earlier life have now become the norm, and my sinus issues are now creating problems. Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Oct 16, 2011
Using Natural Progesterone cream & Fibroids
by: Kay

Hello, I am not a doctor but have been using natural micronized progesterone cream for a year now. I had several polyps in my uterus and a build up of the lining. My GYN performed a biopsy to make sure it was benign and it was, thankfully. She put me on the micronized natural progesterone cream which is compounded for me at the pharmacy. I have been on 100mg per day but to be honest, I have also used some natural that I had from Dr. Lee's site than I have added to it. My last ultrasound showed the lining back down to normal and all polyps gone!

I had also had pressure in the bladder and frequent urination but it left after taking the progesterone cream for about 6 months. It was a gradual thing. I also want to ad that I had taken less the amount of cream prescribed to see if I could make do and the pressure started coming back so increased back to the 100mg per day. Good Luck. Oh, also, put it on my breasts and that helped with the fibrous tissue too.

Oct 20, 2011
(Using) Natural Progesterone cream & Fibroids
by: Wray

Hi Doreen It really is extraordinary that only HRT and AD's are offered. There is a wealth of info on both progesterone and how it can help, and Natural Antidepressants. If you want a saliva test done, please contact Genova Diagnostics, they do our Saliva Tests and are based in Surrey. The ignorance surrounding breast cysts is also extraordinary, there was no need to have it drained, progesterone is very effective, see here, here, here, here, here and here. Sore breasts can also be caused by lack of iodine, see here, here, here and here. An easy way to find out if the level is low is to get a tincture of iodine. Put 3 drops anywhere on the inner arm, rubbing them in with the dropper. If the patch fades in a few hours it means there's a deficiency. Continue applying it until the patch takes days to fade. Alternatively have a blood test. I'm pleased you answered the questionnaire as if you hadn't used progesterone, that's the idea. I had 39 symptoms which I'd put down to ageing, all gone now thank heavens! Fibroids can cause pressure on the bladder. It's an inflammatory disorder, often caused by a lack of antioxidants, particularly vitamin D. Excess oestrogen exacerbates them, as it's an inflammatory hormone. Not only this but it's mitogenic, so causing cells to divide and multiply. Excess oestrogen is also the reason you have sore fibrocystic breasts. Yes our cream is stronger than Pro-Gest, in fact double the strength. It's a 3.3% cream, whereas Pro-Gest is a 1.6% cream. So 1ml of ours contains 33.3mg progesterone. I've run out of space so will start a new comment below. Take care Wray

Oct 20, 2011
(Using) Natural Progesterone cream & Fibroids
by: Wray

Hi Doreen It's interesting you are finding you are more sensitive to allergens now. Progesterone inhibits mast cell secretions, see here. It also has autoimmune and antioxidant properties. Whereas oestrogen??.well need I say more! But I believe your main problem is a lack of vitamin D. Interestingly this reduces the benefits of progesterone. Please have a test done, Birmingham Hospital now do them, they will send you a kit. And for more info see the Vitamin D Links, Vitamin D Council, and GrassrootsHealthwebsites. You'll find Jo of Vitamin D Links very helpful, she lives in London. Vitamin D deficiency is now a world wide problem, as we spend up to 90% of our time indoors. Ireland is not called the Emerald Isle for nothing, you have too much cloud cover to get enough vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D is a potent antioxidant and anti-inflammatory, and you have two inflammatory disorders. The minimum daily dose is 5000iu's, probably more in your case, and the blood level should be 175-250nmol/L, not the 50nmol/L BH say is adequate! You will need 100-200mg/day progesterone, probably more to begin with due to the fibroids and sore breasts. But please watch for Oestrogen Dominance. We do have more info on our Peri-menopause page, but as you're nearing Menopause, please read this too. I too wished I'd found progesterone earlier, during puberty in fact, when I had depression. I put my daughter on it when she was 14, she still uses it and is now 30. Take care Wray

Oct 20, 2011
Using Natural Progesterone cream & Fibroids
by: Wray

Hi Kay I'm delighted the progesterone has helped you. I'm pleased you were given 100mg too, this is the minimum I recommend, many women use much more for severe symptoms. I'm also pleased you're using the progesterone as it should be used, reducing or increasing as you see fit. It should never be used as a fixed daily amount, for instance stress drops levels sharply, so symptoms come back. And who of us doesn't have stress on a daily basis. Take care Wray

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