Hard Luteal Cycle
I just made a very large order of Natpro with my 1000mg/day doses and significant other now taking 300mg/day and several clients now using I must have enough on hand.
Ok to update you on me first of all the good news I can definitely feel the progesterone making changes. I am on day 25 of using the cream and day 24 of my cycle. I had a hard ovulation then came out of that fairly well. The progesterone feels like putting a blanket over the sharp edges and like there is a buffer to soften stress. I am sleeping well and do not have all the symptoms I was having but days 18-25 (today) have been very hard and harder than usual. I am assuming this is the estrogen dominance rising again. Even at this high dose I still am having trouble. Since day 18 I have felt anger, aggression, deep and hard crying at times low self-esteem, insecurity and a feeling of hopelessness and depression. This also seems worse this month and though in the past I have been used to all these and more at different levels during month but usually 1 or 2 days of very aggravated symptoms sometime during the 2 weeks before my period. Taurine is helping and making a big difference with anxiousness. Since taking 3000-4000mg divided doses daily anxiety much better.
Its mostly this low self-esteem, insecurity, hopelessness, depression, cravings, (some aggression only in few days during luteal phase) that are beyond hard.
And I know that some of this does take time but if there is anything else I can do besides wait for time to pass I would so appreciative.
I know that I am dealing with copper toxicity and I assume this could also be why I need such a high dose of progesterone and why some of these symptoms are so tough to get a hold of. Does progesterone alone assist copper in leaving the body????? I know zinc does and I am taking this. I know Dr. Lee talks about progesterone balancing the zinc to copper ratio but do you specifically what action progesterone has on copper. Or is it really only bringing the excess estrogen down then having an effect on the copper? I have been working on this for some now but being estrogen dominant and not taking progesterone i think makes it hard to feel better at all. Now its combining all of it.
Here is what I am taking: Vit D3 20,000-30,000 i.u., very potent pro-biotic, Taurine divided doses 4,000mg/day, Magnesium, Zinc 22-100mg- more during luteal, just stared Energy Boost 2 days ago.
The taurine was very clear cut it worked immediately and I know how much to use. The other aminos I’m not sure how much to take or how long to wait to avoid creating same symptoms. I thought Tyrosine, Tryptophan and Inositol and Glutamine would be helpful for the symptoms I’m having. I tried the Tryptophan at night with juice away from protein first 250, then 500 then 1000. No change I don’t know how long to hold the dose before raising as I certainly do not want to create symptoms but don’t want to suffer needlessly by taking only a little. I though tyrosine would be good for dopamine but again i don’t notice any change. I am taking 4000-6000mg inositol and don’t really notice anything with this either. I didn’t titrate up slowly with inositol I just went straight to the lower dose.
I know it is also getting just the right combination. I have ‘Mood Cure’ and Joan Mathews ‘Depression Free’. They both suggest staring out on higher doses of the aminos but it is easy to create imbalance by using too much of something. I know you have been doing this a long time and many of these things I have tried in the past but not with good results or consistency. Having the progesterone on board makes it easier to pin point what else may be helpful. But its using the right amount and enough time ? ? ? ?
An important factor is that zinc definitely makes a difference. As I said earlier this is related to the copper. But I don’t take the same amount of zinc on the cycle or follicular phase because it will cause the same symptoms it relieves in the luteal.
What a journey this is trying to figure all this out just to be sane. The only thing I can figure is why I have gone through all this is to help others!!!!
I have other information for you on the ‘hidden copper’ indicators and a few other things. I will write in a different post. Oh I almost forgot I have been trying to find out how to get the Calming Complex and from reading posts went to Joys website and dropped an email requesting. No response. That was 1 week ago. But the Taurine seems to be helping with anxiety so not sure I still need but would like to know how to get it.
I thought I would try the Energy Boost for insulin resistance. I don’t know if this is going on but the symptoms you mention I do have: hard to focus, concentrate, brain fog ect.
Thank you again Wray and Many Blessings to you.