Early period

Hello Wray.

This is nearly my 3rd month of applying progesterone cream, however I had 5 weeks break before this last trial. 2 weeks ago I applied 5ml daily of progesterone cream, after a few days my period came on early.( i cannot recall what day of my cycle I started) So I thought to stop applying the cream and restart on day 12. I restarted the cream on day 12 ( day 12-18 = 5ml, 18-20= 7ml) and now on day 20 I spotted and day 21 have a period. This did not happen in my first 2 months of the cream and I was using similar dosage then also.

I do have PCOS and was wondering if I should just keep continuing with the dosage daily, or keep a cycle of applying the cream at day 12/14-26/28.

I can note that this time of trialling the cream I have not suffered the same extreme symptoms of oestrogen dominance like I did in the beginning, even after a 5 week break. Where previously I did have a week break in between the first 2 months and the symptoms reoccurred.

This time around, I have had no breast tenderness, or bloating, in which first time round my breasts nearly tripled in size. I have also been on a low carb, no grains adaptation of paleo diet for the last 8 days of the 10 days of applying the cream again, in which I think perhaps has been a great help in deterring the oestrogen symptoms?

As always, thank you tremendously for your advice and support.

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Jul 03, 2012
Early period
by: Wray

Hi there Progesterone can upset the cycle when first using it, it either comes earlier or later, although I've found it's generally earlier. Your own cycle will assert itself it time, although with PCOS it does take longer. I would suggest using the progesterone daily, through any bleeding, for about 2-3 months. This usually ensures progesterone becomes dominant and suppresses any excess estrogen and testosterone. There's more info on the PCOS page. I'm not sure how much progesterone you're using. You say 5ml, but how much progesterone does this contain? And I'm not sure why you are starting it on day 12, do you have a 26 day cycle? I'm so pleased you didn't have any bad Oestrogen Dominance symptoms this time, evidently the amount you're using is helping you. The Paleo type diet will be helping too, as grains and legumes are very high in phytoestrogens, see here, and here here. Please don't rely solely on the progesterone to reverse the PCOS, it is essential to take high dose antioxidants too. There is a list of them on the PCOS page. Take care Wray

Jul 14, 2012
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by: Anonymous

Thank you again Wray.

I will continue to take the 5ml (I use your Natpro ) daily for the next 3 months as suggested. Still no bloating or breast tenderness and I still continue to follow a low carbohydrate diet,(limited sugar,oh it is a struggle with PCOS sugar cravings!) and increased excercise, in which I have lost 9cm on my hips & 10cm on my waist in 7 weeks.

I am taking resveretrol as an antioxidant, magnesium, zinc, B complex, chromium, 5000mg Vit D & calcium. Hopefully this will help reverse the PCOS.

My main issue is with hirituism, quick weight gain & depression. Periods are fairly regular and I have no acne. Fingers crossed. The depression has greatly improved with the use of Natpro! Which I beleive has helped me stay in a good mindset to continue with healthy eating and excercise plan. As they say, 'Fix the mind and the body will follow'. :)

At the end of the year I will get a full test done to see how all is and will let you know.

Again, Thank you ever so kindly!

Jul 14, 2012
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by: Anonymous

P.s In the last 2 weeks, I have also included the antioxadant aminos as suggested on your PCOS page via a low carbohydrate protein drink that contains all essential aminos.

Jul 16, 2012
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by: Wray

Hi there Thanks for reminding me which cream you're using, it does help. Now I know you're using about 170mg/day progesterone which is a good amount. I'm delighted you've lost all those cm around hips and waist, amazing! The cravings are so difficult, but hopefully you'll find the aminos will help, NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) helps with IR. Very pleased you're taking those I suggest. The inositol should help too, particularly if you're taking the amount I suggest in the list on the PCOS page. The most critical nutrients for reversing PCOS are NAC, inositol and vitamin D and arginine. Plus of course the progesterone. If you want a sugar substitute consider using erythritol or xylitol. The former has no calories, the latter 2.4/g. Hopefully the hirsuitism will go too, it's caused by excess androgens. Progesterone increases levels of SHBG which then bind more testosterone, making less available, see here. SHBG drops if sugars are eaten, even those found in all grains, legumes, dairy and sweet starchy fruits and vegetables. Fructose, sucrose and glucose (all carbs are converted into glucose), reduce SHBG by 80, 50 and 40% respectively, see here. It's best to avoid all the foods and sugars mentioned, which you are doing following the Paleo diet. High insulin stimulates androgen secretion, inositol helps to reduce insulin. Inositol can be helpful in depression too, but I'm so pleased yours has already been helped. There are a number of other nutrients which help too, I'm not sure if I ever gave you our page on Anxiety. Vitamin D is an essential for this, I'm glad you're taking the 5000iu's per day, please have a test done after 2-3 months, it could be you need to take more, a test will tell you.

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