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Natpro out of stock

Hi Wray just wanted to know when natpro would be back in stock as I've been waiting more than a week for organic products to re-stock. It's not like them to go longer than a week out of stock, are you able to shed some light on this?

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Sep 05, 2012
 Natpro out of stock
by: Wray

Hi there I'm so sorry about this. I've made enquiries, and it seems several people in the UK ordered 100 tubes each, and someone in Slovenia 200 tubes all over the past few days. This depleted the stocks we had down to zero. We have increased shipments to the fulfilment centre, so hopefully they will arrive in a day or two. Take care Wray
Jun 20, 2014
 Out of stock again
by: Tiff

On the website it says that natpro is out of stock again. I checked last week and it said the same thing. I was wondering if and when it would be in stock again.
Jul 08, 2014
 Still waiting on Natpro Re-Stock
by: Desperately needing Natpro

I've been waiting over 2 months for a re-stock notice.

Can someone PLEASE suggest alternate sources where on might order it? Like one of the companies that bought up all the reserves??? I can't afford to buy 100-200 tubes at a time, but I still desperately need this product.

Are there comparable products that I might order/use in the interim?

Also, do you think the out-of-stock problem could be ongoing?
Jul 09, 2014
 natpro still out of stock... i hope the people who manage this site actually do something about it before they lose customers...
by: Tiff

I think it is an ongoing problem. From the comments on this site and others it seems as if someone is not able to make sure there are enough reserves to keep their customers supplied. It is very poor management/ business practices when they can't get more of their product in stock for almost two months now, and can't seem to at least respond to customer comments... As for alternatives... I haven't seen any natpro for sale anywhere else,but there is another product called "progestelle" that is just bio identical (natural) progesterone in coconut oil. It works just as well as natpro, but is more expensive per mg of progesterone. Anything else I have found has either contained xenoestrogens (i.e. parabens, phenoxyethanol, etc.) or phytoestrogens (plant based estrogens). I don't know what your situation is, but I have very painful endometriosis and taking natpro daily was helping to eliminate the pain and reverse the process. Without a good estrogen free progesterone cream/oil I am in pain constantly. I hope you find something that works for you soon. :)
Jul 09, 2014
 Stock
by: Anonymous

Hi,
I saw your message. I am not sure if I can be of any help but I carry stock in the UK for my clients. I know how dreadful it is to be out of cream. Please contact me on julesvs19@gmail.com and lets chat.
Kind regards
Julienne
Jul 30, 2014
 limit purchase?
by: Jill

Here's a thought, maybe there should be a limit on how many tubes someone can buy at one time?At least for a little while'.

It's not right that some are purchasing so many tubes while others suffer for it. I usually buy 15 tubes at a time. One tube lasts me about 4 days.

I get Emerita Progest from Amazon as a backup but do prefer Natpro.

I appreciate so much about this site. There so much information all backed up by studies and such. But the stock outs are an issue. And considering the prevailing recommendation here is to use high doses of progesterone, then this stock out issue needs to be addressed and solved.

I'm sure it's difficult to do so but I'm confident it can be done. The problem is, people get scared of running out so they order more and more which just creates more stock outs. I hope stock is up soon.
Aug 10, 2014
 Gave up on Natpro
by: Chelsea

I've been waiting to purchase Natpro for FOREVER.
I'm constantly in pain but have not purchased any over the counter progesterone cream because Natpro was the best.

You guys have def lost a customer. Will not be purchasing again. Can not wait around anymore. Going to buy metabolic maintenance or emerita.
Aug 11, 2014
 Another lost customer...
by: Tiff

Chelsea, I also have given up on natpro because I cannot wait anymore for it. I found that most over the counter creams contain estrogenic preservatives which could just make your situation worse. I have found a cream that is almost the same price per milligram progesterone as natpro (it's slightly more expensive than natpro) that seems to work well and has no estrogenic preservatives in it. It's called clear patch progesterone lotion http://www.gentlepharmacy.com/clearnatprog.html

There is also "progestelle" if you don't mind paying twice the price for it, and all it is is progesterone in coconut oil.
Aug 13, 2014
 Another lost customer
by: Joy

Hi Tiff

One has to look at what progesterone concentration is in a cream. The clear patch works out more expensive as it's a 30g/1oz bottle with 5% or 1500mg progesterone which costs $25.95 which translates into $34.60 for 2000mg if using Natpro. Natpro is $25.70 for a 60/2oz tube.
Aug 13, 2014
 Wow really...Looks like someone needs to learn to read...
by: Tiff

Joy,
I said slightly more expensive. Learn to read please. As I am a Chemical Engineer I believe I can run numbers just fine thank you. As far as the price per milligram progesterone goes it was the closest price that I could find online for a progesterone cream/lotion (that did not contain any xenoestrogen preservatives) to natpro. The reason for buying natpro was that it was the cheapest thing that worked. I suggested other brands because the people who sell natpro cannot seem to produce enough for their customers, and many of these women have severe female problems like I do and need progesterone to keep from hurting or getting sick. So more than likely you work for natpro and are just trying to keep these poor ladies waiting for a product that is only in stock sometimes, whilst I am giving them an option to find an alternative until maybe the powers that be here find a way to navigate their heads out of their respective rectums and satisfy their customer's needs. It is pathetic that they have been out of stock for so long and they shouldn't be butthurt that they are now losing customers over it.
Aug 13, 2014
 Wow yet again...
by: Tiff

And one more thing Joy... (assuming that this comment is posted after my other one that I wrote earlier as it should be) I will GLADLY pay the extra money for a product that I know works and that I know will be IN STOCK! Just to keep me from being in pain due to my condition. I assume that you work for who ever makes natpro otherwise you wouldn't be the only one trying to defend it...Maybe you can tell the powers that be how upset the customers are and get the situation fixed. The powers that be need to understand that this is a medical need for a lot, if not most, of the people who buy it and to cut that off with no warning tells people that the product is not reliable and therefore people will go somewhere else to get their medical needs met.
Sep 01, 2014
 Alternative to Natpro until Stock Comes In
by: Jackie

Thanks Tiff for the website to gentle pharmacy! If one truly needs progesterone, the additional amount is worth it.
Sep 12, 2014
 An idea
by: Anonymous

Wow, I'm so happy with all the info on this page. Having said this: thank you Tiff for posting other options. I'm disappointed that this issue is not addressed!!!!! OUT OF STOCK. I hope some women in the world get together in cooperation and find a way to manufacture this Natpro product in different countries. Its not fair that there seems to be only one resource. Hopefully this can be done in alliance with Natpro and trough that upholding integrity.

At least put up accurate info when it will be in stock. I see myself checking every day. If I do this then many many many women are doing this. That means stress for all those who are in pain. If you can't handle this business its the appropriate thing to do to have others stepping in. Give the formula to key persons in other countries. You have don something wonderful, now you have to pass it on.
Sep 12, 2014
 drops
by: Anonymous

So I want to use clear patch until natpro is in stock again. How many drops do I use to get to the amout of 100mg in natpro?
Sep 13, 2014
 Progest-E
by: Anonymous

I just wanted to recommend Progest-e by Kenogen in Eugene Oregon.. You can google it and find more than one website that sells it. It is mixed with. Vitamin e and is a bit like an oil more than a cream. I have heard from many that it is reliable good quality product. It's got 2800mg oh progesterone for around $28. I'm going to be getting some because I am done waiting for NotPro as I refer to it now, since it is obviously not going to be available despite being told for months that it would be.
Sep 13, 2014
 An idea
by: Wray

Hi there The last thing we would wish on anyone, customers or ourselves, is to be out of stock. It certainly isn't a deliberate act, but one of simple cash flow. We hope now the problem is solved, as we made a double batch 2 weeks ago, and will be making another next week. This amounts to 10,000 tubes which I hope will mean there's enough stock for all, plus prevent any more stock outs. It would be wonderful to 'give' the business away, I'm burnt out by answering queries, but if we did, can you give me some idea as to how we will earn a living? It's normal to sell a business, not give one away, much as I'd like to be a philanthropist, I can't afford to be. Take care Wray
Sep 13, 2014
 to Wray
by: Anonymous

I'm not sure what you mean by giving the business away, and I don't know if you own natpro or work for them. All I know is that this thread was started a couple of years ago and just recently new comments have been added to it because of natpro being out of stock yet again. These new comments started around June and it took you three months to reply back to these ladies. If you do work for natpro it shows poor customer service and it's no wonder that natpro is losing customers left and right. Whether you work for them or not, I know you do this also because you care and because you want to educate women on their hormonal health as hormonal issues are so prevalent now. However if this getting to be too much for you perhaps you need to find a better way to address all queries or get others to help you as it is apparent you can't handle the workload by yourself.
Sep 13, 2014
 I don't work for the company that makes Natpro
by: Susie M

Hi,
I want to first say that I don't work for the company that makes Natpro. I am just a customer who purchases it.

I too wish there was always Natpro in Stock but those who are complaining with mean comments are forgetting that this web site along with Wray have provided us all with so much help where we could not get any from anywhere else, especially our doctors who we tried to turn to.

Wray has not only helped with suggestions of Progesterone doses for our individual problems but given us sited studies to go along with all the info we only have to click on. She has done all the research for us. Then there are the supplements she suggests to further help each individual beyond just using progesterone. That is unusual for someone to do who makes no profit from these suggested supplements.

Wray takes the time to answer each and every inquiry often within only a day or two. She does this whether people buy Natpro or not. That shows that she truly cares to help others.
Thank goodness for this site. Thank goodness for Natpro despite the shortage.

I thank others for suggesting other alternate progesterone products to use until they get some Natpro back in stock. I am looking as well for something to get me through the shortage. I looked up all the suggestions of alternate products. I'm so sorry that none of them are equal or even close to the amount of progesterone in Natpro. So this tells me that we should all be grateful that Natpro even exists.

If you will carefully read or reread....as sometimes part of our symptoms are forgetfulness and brain fog..... The page on this site on "progesterone" you will get the facts on what method of getting progesterone in your system works and what does not. Oral progesterone does not compare to transdermal. I personally, would have to take almost 6 entire bottles of Ray Peat's Progest E everyday to equal the same amount I take of Natpro. And it is an oral progesterone. So as much as I appreciate the suggestion it would not be a alternative for Natpro. In fact it was the first progesterone product I purchased before finding this progesteronetherapy site. I then realized I had wasted my money on it. :(

I checked out the other alternative progesterone products listed and there was either not enough progesterone in the product and it contained ingredients I don't want to take or it was derived from yams which the "progesterone info page" states does not work. Most of the alternative products of progesterone would not list the amount of progesterone in their product or the source of the progesterone. So you could not find out from the company if the progesterone cream was from yams or soy or how much to use in comparison to what dose you use with Natpro.

We know that Natpro has 33.3 % progesterone in each tube and that let's us know how much to use to get what each individual needs for their particular symptoms. We know that Natpro is not made from yams. We know there is no estrogen products nor any other harmful ingredients in Natpro. This info is all provided and not hidden from us. In fact the company that makes Natpro is proud to tell all this to us. It makes me wonder why other progesterone companies don't list all their products info or they don't know about yam sources.

I can't seem to find a comparable alternative. Oh how I wish I could when Natpro is out of stock. Even a somewhat close alternative. I've spent hours looking on line. But please, other readers of this site, keep offering alternates if you have one so I can try one while waiting for Natpro.

By saying you are not going to purchase Natpro again because it's out of stock and your mad, then you are only hurting yourself since it seems to be the only good progesterone product currently available. Maybe there are those out there who have the funds to invest In the company that makes Natpro so the company can grow to supply the demand. I really wish I could help.

Please be kind to others who really only want to help you.
It is better for your stress levels to try to not be angry towards anyone. And we all know stress does not help our needs for progesterone. All who have issues needing progesterone must try to remain as stress-free as we all can. It helps to let things go if we possibly can. Try to have Loving kindness to all. Hopefully Natpro will be available to all who desperately need and rely on it very soon. :)
Sep 14, 2014
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by: Tiff

Well Susie maybe you couldn't find the information about the benefits of natural progesterone anywhere else... but for those of us ladies who actually have the capacity to do a little bit of research the info isn't hard to find. By the way, what right do you have to tell any of the poor ladies on here who have been in constant pain due to natpro being out of stock for 3+ months that they should be nice about it? WE ARE THE F***ING CUSTOMERS! The only reason that natpro exists is because WE buy it. Maybe you and Wray should enroll in an economics course and Wray should enroll in some business courses because she obviously doesn't know how to run a small business such as this. (Just to note : Wray if you aren't the one who is able to make the business decisions and you are just the person who deals with the website/customers then I apologize, but I feel from what I have read on the website that you are at least partially responsible for this mess.) People in today's society have forgotten what makes the world go round. We don't need to be nice to people who aren't doing their job, cannot provide their products to their customers in a timely fashion, or have a decent level of customer service when it comes to responding to their customers concerns. "The world doesn't give a flying sh** how you feel, all they care about is whether or not you can provide the services that you promised and do it well." Take note Wray that whilst your product may have been the cheapest per milligram progesterone, that cheapness came at a huge cost to your customers. It has caused your customers pain and misery, and caused you to lose customers because I am more than happy (and more than able) to pay extra just to know that there will be a consistent supply of the medication that I need. However I will not buy a product that has proven to be unreliable (in supply, not quality). Realize that most of your customers are choosers not beggars, therefore you have to earn their business and trust. By being out of stock for 3+ months you have lost both my business and my trust. If I sound like a jerk then good, maybe you might learn something from my comments... but chances are both you and Susie will read this, get upset and respond at least somewhat rudely. Not trying to upset Wray or anyone else, but we are the customers and if you can't at least provide the product that you advertise then you should do damage control the best you can. Tell the people that it is likely that you will be out of stock for a few months and suggest that if they need progesterone badly then they can find it at whatever online store you think is best. This would have been a show of goodwill towards your customers and chances are if you still have a good product that is cheaper, then they would still come back and buy from you. While I appreciate your attempt to make the cheapest product possible that still works, if you can't keep it in stock due to lack of funds then what's the point? What was done with this stock out is just unacceptable and shows poor business practice. I hope that they (Wray and whoever else is involved with this business) understand this and make a point to step back and reassess their business strategy.
Sep 14, 2014
 I don't work for the company that makes Natpro
by: Wray

Hi Susie M Bless you for the kind words and your support too. I know how you have been trying to get some sort of equilibrium for over 2 years now. Some of the emails and comments we've received have upset me, as if we deliberately caused the stock outs. We had a cash flow problem which took much longer to resolve than originally thought. It's now over and we have made a double batch of cream, and will be making another double batch next week. This amounts to 10,000 tubes which I hope will be sufficient to cover all the back orders we have, apparently now numbering 600. I only hope they don't all order 20 tubes as some have said, that would cause another stock out. Take care Wray
Sep 14, 2014
 response to drops
by: Tiff

Hi, I don't know if you've calculated it yourself by now, but to get 100mg progesterone from the clear patch liquid it should be about 72 drops (I get 71.4 ish but since having 2/5 of a drop is kinda difficult I would just go with 72 drops). If you need to calculate any other dosages for clear patch it says that in a 5 drop application there is 7mg progesterone, so just take the dosage you need and multiply it by (5/7) to get the correct number of drops. For example you wanted to use 100mg progesterone so you take 100mg*(5 drops/7mg)=71.42857...drops.
Sep 14, 2014
 Alexandra
by: Anonymous

Hi Wray,
My name is Alexandra and made the comment of passing on :) I did not say giving away.
The reason why I wrote this was to have a hand in your lower back to push you out of hiding.
I found this page 1.5 half week ago and have been reading for 3 days, your writing has inspired me very much. I came to the conclusion that the out of stock problem has been a pattern over 3 years. I found in your writing a women with a big heart and know the out of stock is not on purpose and that you must feel anguished about it. My responds and that of Tiff is firm, by no means angry or mean. Kindness does not always look fluffy. My hand is in your lower back, pushing and saying: Come on girl get it right!!!!
I'm a kinesiologist in NYC and want to introduce this product to my clients and would love to affiliate myself to this product. I can not do that if you can't keep up with supply.
I don't think at this point you can do orders of 100 of 200 tubes, nor can you do the 20 with 30% discount. As you say this would lead to the next out of stock. You envision yourself already the next stock out. That is not a message of trust for customers. On the order page it says out of stock check in in two days (for over months), this is not OK and can be changed tomorrow. I understand your problem and you have my sympathy. You have excess to kinesiology in south africa.....the best, they can do a session with you on your business goals. After 1 session you don't speak in maybe stock and hopefully it will resolve. You will align your hearts desire with the power in your belly and act out what needs to be done. I'm saying this out of authenticity and a big heart that wants you to get to the next level of your success.
Short in cashflow: don't give discounts, no more then 10 tubes orders and writing customers about this. If needed do a fundraising on line. I will be the first to donate a 100 dollars. Customers going elsewhere: I have women in my practise that can not afford that. I believe women with lower income should have excess to this product as will. Branching out to produce in other countries is not robbing you from you income. My name is Alexandra: a stranger that believes in you and your product. Get it right girl! And lots of love!!!!
Sep 14, 2014
 Alexandra
by: Anonymous

Hi Tiff,
I was the one asking for the recalculation of drops. Thank you for answering. I have many talents but numbers is not one of them. haha. Gave me a head spin.
Thank you for your other writing. It was important for me to read.
Alexandra
Sep 16, 2014
 Alexandra
by: Wray

Hi Alexandra Thanks for your encouragement, the kind words, and the love too. I started this business as I have all those I've had in the past, with the help of the universe. It's been my passion for 17, going on 18 years now. But I needed a break and took one of almost a year, Joy has been helping me over that time, but she now needs a break. It's hard going with everyone wanting an answer to their queries. The problem wasn't one of cash per se, we had more than enough of that. But of access to it, but it's not something I wish to discuss on line. Suffice to say it's now over and I can breathe again. The delay in stock is merely due to waiting for raws to arrive, manufacturing the cream, we have to fall in line with the labs schedule, and then getting it to the fulfilment house. I do know stock has come into the fulfilment house, but it's gone out as quickly. We knew this would occur in the early stages, but hopefully soon it will stabilise and there will be sufficient to cover all orders without a stock out. I now want to take a complete break from the website and go back farming as I once did. I'm now 66, almost 67 and feel a deep need to go back to digging in the earth. Take care and love to you too, Wray
Sep 16, 2014
 Possible Natpro alternative
by: Susie M

Thank you to all who have posted alternatives to Natpro. We are all so desperate to get our hands on something to help us. Many are in physical pain.

I have also spent many hours several days in a row searching the internet for a Natpro type replacement while stock is out. I still continue to look.

The problem I have come across in my extensive researching is that most progesterone products are made from yams which we know don't work. I always research a promising products ingredients and source of progesterone. The other thing I have come across is what TIFF said in one of her comments about many of these other progesterone products....."has either contained xenoestrogens (i.e. parabens, phenoxyethanol, etc.) or phytoestrogens (plant based estrogens)."

I know that TIFF has said she has spent a lot of time searching and researching looking for a replacement that can give her the relief she needs for her pain and suffering. I so appreciate the time she has out in and her willingness to try to help others and share her findings. Thank you TIFF. I really wish I could take your pain away from you. I wish I could help everyone including myself by finding a good alternative product.

I did want to say that I checked out the ingredients and progesterone sources of Progest-E and ClearPatch and Progestelle. All 3 state they are made from yams.
Progest-E states only the vitamin E is from soy but the progesterone is stated as derived from yams.

But please keep suggesting more possible alternatives for Natpro. I really want to find one that will work as does everyone in need. Any suggestions of a possible replacement is very much appreciated. Thank you to all who care enough to share what info that they find.
Sep 17, 2014
 Found Wray's recommended Natpro alternatives
by: Susie M

I am guilty of asking Wray to give me brand names of alternative progesterone creams she recommends while Natpro is out of stock. I'm sure it's hard to answer every question that has already been answered in the info on this web site. Sorry Wray. So in looking up things again I came across this from the progesterone-cream section of this site.......

"Please compare... the four progesterone creams listed below are all good products... none are bogus "Yam Creams" or pure "label jobs". In fact I've deliberately selected what I (Wray) believe are the best alternative progesterone creams to Natpro...

Pro-Gest
Renewed Balance
Serenity
Progestacare
... you will see that these products vary in concentration of progesterone - its important to keep this in mind."

Read more:.progesteronetherapy.com/progesterone-cream.

This has been helpful to me. I hope it is helpful to others on this thread as we wait for Natpro to become available again.
Sep 17, 2014
 progesterone derived from yams
by: Tiff

Dear Susie,
Thank you for your kind words. One thing that I would like to point out to you as you appear to be misinformed, or maybe you misunderstood some information given to you.

The progesterone derived from yams has the same chemical structure as the progesterone derived from soy.
There is no soy or yam left in the progesterone once it is refined in the "lab".

Most of the ladies on here think that what they use is "natural progesterone" and is "naturally" derived, but it reality it is the same exact molecule that is produced in the body BUT it is synthetically derived from either yams or soy.

Therefore technically the correct term would be bio identical progesterone.

The confusion comes from some products claiming that a yam cream can be used in place of the synthetically derived bio identical progesterone, and that the body can somehow metabolize the yams into usable progesterone on its own, which the body cannot do.

The clear patch and many other creams that contain progesterone derived from yams are perfectly fine to use as they have the same synthetically derived bio identical progesterone that is used in natpro and others.

Clear patch works fine for me and many others, as long as it tells you that it contains "progesterone usp" and doesn't contain any xenoestrogen preservatives or some phytoestrogen ingredients (depending on your condition, I would recommend against these as well) then you are good to go.

Also Susie you may notice that at the top of this thread I mentioned that I am a Chemical Engineer and have a decent amount of knowledge about how chemicals like this are synthesized just in case you were wondering who the heck I was to make such claims or what my credentials were.
Sep 17, 2014
 .......
by: Tiff

Alexandra, you're welcome! Glad I can be helpful since numbers are something that I'm pretty good at.

Susie, I'm glad you found info on the fact that there is no difference between bio identical progesterone derived from yams and that which is derived from soy. They are the same molecule synthesized in a "lab" and the same molecule that the body produces.

Also ladies you might want to be careful of some of the suggestions made in the comment above. Progest, Renewed Balance, and Progestacare all contain phenoxyethanol which if you read the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for it you will find that it is known to cause neurological problems in some people, and it is also believed to be a pretty strong xenoestrogen.

I have had personal experience with this toxic chemical (used Kokoro Balance Cream when the stock out first occured) and found that it made the cream almost unusable. My endometriosis flared up terribly, so I would advise against using these creams. I don't recognize any of the ingredients in the Serenity cream to be xenoestrogens, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't be or that it is safe.

I encourage all of you ladies to do your own research and be very careful when it comes to what you put on your bodies. If you don't know what a chemical is then look up the material safety data sheet (msds) for it, see what the known risks are and evaluate whether or not you are willing to take those risks by using the product. Become more informed and don't believe everything you see on this site. I believe that Wray has all the best intentions, but when it comes to the different chemicals that are out there today it is very difficult to stay ahead of the game.
Sep 17, 2014
 .......
by: Wray

Hi Tiff Thanks for your excellent reply. I find it next to impossible to persuade people that the plant substrate is immaterial to the synthesis of progesterone. And yes to your comments about phenoxyethanol. We don't use it for the reasons you've given, but it's also been banned by Ecocert since June 2008 for use in natural and organic skin care. The best site to look up safety facts on chemicals is EWG's Skin Deep. This is their page on phenoxyethanol. The problem with the MSDS sheets is they are based on the raw material, If someone looked up progesterone they wouldn't touch it! Take care Wray
Sep 17, 2014
 ......
by: Tiff

Wray, I agree if one knows nothing of the chemical at all then yes the msds can be unsettling, but in the case of progesterone and many other chemicals they are safe to a degree.

As long as you aren't taking progesterone in ridiculous amounts (probably around a few hundred mg/day, i.e. greater than the amount that the body produces naturally even during pregnancy) for extended periods of time then it is very likely safe.

The msds gives impartial data on the safety of the substance. When used properly, and in conjunction with a general understanding of the substance then it can help to determine if that material is something you wish to use.

I will admit if you have little to no background in chemistry it may not make sense, but that doesn't mean that people can't learn to use the information properly.

I believe that these ladies (and people in general) should not take anyone's word and should look into everything themselves, and then consult with others (doctors, chemists/biochemists, pharmacists, chemical engineers, anyone you know who has a good deal of knowledge of chemistry and biology).

Also Wray I have to ask, why do you keep a list of progesterone alternatives where most of them contain phenoxyethanol if you know it to be an xenoestrogen?
Sep 17, 2014
 Progesterone made from yams
by: Susie M

Thank you TIFF. I did misunderstand about yams. I was getting so frustrated seeing cream after cream stating it was from yams thinking it was no good. So you really helped me understand and maybe others.

You have a wonderful advantage being a chemical engineer. You have the knowledge to understand all the added ingredients that theses companies put into these creams and know which are bad for people. Please keep informing others of these things you are so helpful and I am grateful for your info.

My only intent was to help others as I have been helped by some on this progesterone site and I'm so sorry to anyone for giving the wrong info. Please forgive my stupidity.

One of the symptoms I suffer from is foggy thinking is that is what it's called along with a remembering problem. This web site has soooo much info. And I can't remember all that I have read about it or where exactly I read something if I want to go back and double check what it said.

I'm sorry Wray that you get asked so many times about info that is right here in the web site. You must get tired of answering over and over questions that have the answers already listed here. I am one of those people sorry to say. It's a horrible thing to feel like you are falling apart at 55 and it's madding to have cognitive issues. To me that is too young. My mom is almost 90 and she is in better shape than me as far as health goes. Makes me wonder what is going on in the environment that is causing people to be so sick at a younger and younger age.

So again thanks you for the clarification TIFF. You are so kind to offer that to me.
Sep 18, 2014
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by: Wray

Hi Tiff I do agree about people looking into things themselves, it's the reason I give the studies. Although most don't bother to read them. When the parabens got a rap some years ago many companies switched to phenoxyethanol. I haven't kept up with the changing formulas of all the creams, it would be impossible. And it's really of no interest to me, as you say people should do their own research. Take care Wray
Oct 19, 2014
 Wray, Tiff and Alexandra
by: caren

Enjoyed reading the posts ladies, Wray your belief and support in Natpro has helped so many and you write honestly which is forgiving but it sounds like you have burn out and need a rest, maybe Tiff can help run the business she is so clever and passionate, thanks for the effort you've put into researching the products Tif, and Alexandra I'm touched by your lovely writing so elegant and natural. With so many relying on the product it sounds like the business needs to expand instead of being a cottage industry getting more people to support you Wray. It would be great to have Natpro here in the UK as I'm sure it would elsewhere, I can't see this problem getting easier without expanding the business. Love to you all, Caren
Oct 21, 2014
 Status now
by: Wray

Hi Jenny Please do not take the arimidex, what is he thinking of!? 450mg/day is a good amount, it really is up to you and your pocket, to try more. I would suggest only if things are not improving quickly enough. The keto diet is excellent, let us know how you get on with it. I wouldn't advise higher than 3mg melatonin. And your doctor is wrong, zinc lowers cortisol effectively, see here and here. Take care Wray
Oct 21, 2014
 Wray, Tiff and Alexandra
by: Wray

Hi Caren I did get burn out! I have a habit of doing this to myself. So now I'm taking it easy. I suppose you could call it a cottage industry compared to most businesses out there! But we have over 250 distributors world wide, many in the UK. We find between 2500 to 5000 tubes are ordered per month, demand varies. It's definitely climbing as more people find the site. Thanks for the kind words. Take care Wray
Oct 21, 2014
 Progestelle since natpro has been unreliable
by: Lena

Thanks for the progestelle suggestion... I have ordered it and I'm in Canada... If you go onto the progestelle website, you can get a one time offer of purchasing one bottle and getting an additional bottle free. Even with the 12.95$ shipping... Works out to be $10 cheaper than natpro with the deal. I love natpro, but am so disappointed and frustrated with the stock issue.... :(
Oct 23, 2014
 Progestelle since natpro has been unreliable
by: Wray

Hi Lena Thanks so much for the kind words about Natpro. I'm as dismayed as you about the stock outs, we are getting on top of it, but slowly. Too slowly for some. I would like to know how you get on with the Progestelle when you have the time. It's one of the few I would recommend as it has no chemical preservatives. Well it has none in fact as it does not contain water, only progesterone and coconut oil. My concern is the cost, according to their website, it's $24 for 1 bottle of 800mg progesterone. Natpro is $23.70 for 2000mg progesterone. So buying 2000mg progesterone via Progestelle will cost you $60. Even their special offer is more costly. The other thing I'd like to point out is an oil is not as effective as an emulsion, see here. Take care Wray
Oct 28, 2014
 Natpro out of stock
by: Julie

Hi Wray,
I am new to Natpro and just finished my first tube of the progesterone cream. (Since I am new, I got a promotional order of 3 tubes and I must have been lucky) I have been going to the website for 5 days now and it says that "stock is out, check back in a day or two." As I read the other posts from months ago, I am seeing that it is an ongoing problem and difficult to reorder. I am very frustrated as I was just beginning to feel better and do not want to stop or change and now it looks like I will have a difficult time of ever getting more. I was only looking to order 4 tubes a month and others are ordering 400 at a time. Just doesn't seem right.

Certainly, a limited amount on the orders would be the prudent thing to do. I feel so let down by Natpro :(
Oct 30, 2014
 Natpro out of stock
by: Wray

Hi Julie The stock outs have been a cause of concern, unfortunately beyond our control. People are now buying more than normal to avoid running out, which in turn doesn't help the stock situation. No one has bought 400 tubes, the doctors/distributors/therapists buy 100 at the most. We have been making double batches for the last few, and double batches are being made for the remainder of the year. We hope this will allow us to build up a stock holding to prevent any further stock outs. There are another 1000 tubes arriving at the fulfilment house shortly. Take care Wray
Nov 15, 2014
 In stock?
by: Becky

How close is this product to being available again? I am using this progesterone to help sustain a pregnancy and will run out in about two weeks.
Nov 17, 2014
 In stock?
by: Wray

Hi Becky I can't tell when we'll get more in, I wish I could. We have made another batch and it is on it's way to the fulfilment house, but when it'll get there I don't know. Take care Wray
Jun 28, 2016
 Still out of stock?
by: Paige

I've been checking for many months, possibly a year by now. I understand if Natpro has been discontinued but please at least let us know!

Unlike Tiff, I don't demand to be satisfied and generally act like a spoiled child, but it would be nice to at least know if there will eventually be product.

I'm fine using Pro-gest, as I've used it off and on for years when I can't get Natpro. However, I do miss that Natpro!

I would suggest no one person buy more than 4-5 tubes at a time.
Jul 04, 2016
 Is Natpro going to still be available in the 2 oz tubes
by: Susie M

Hi,
Is Natoro still going to also be available in the 2oz tubes as well as in the new 3.5 oz air pump bottles? I like the tubes because they fit in my purse and close tight not to spill. I also like that I can easily cut the tube when I can no longer squeeze anymore out to get the last bit. Usually there is at least a full teaspoon of cream left inside that I can get after I cut open the tube, and that is a lot!

The larger air pump container will be good to keep in the bathroom but the tubes are needed for on the go in ones purse or pocket and especially for airplane trips. Please concider offering both types and sizes of Natpro.
Sep 28, 2016
 Alternative to Natpro
by: Michelle

I have had great success with Natpro, but I need about 400mg/day. With it being out of stock I went in search of another alternative to hold me over. I found Ona's Natural Progesterone Cream on Amazon at at $27 for a 2 oz pump bottle. It is a 10% natural USP progesterone cream that gives 2840mg of progesterone per ounce. This works out to be 100 mg progesterone per pump, which is about 1 ml. In the 2 oz pump bottle there are 56 pumps. I ordered a bottle and will give it a try. I love Natpro, but I need to find an alternative until it is in stock again. This seems to be the closest to Natpro that is out there. Fingers crossed this works and my PCOS and endometriosis symptoms don't return!
Feb 12, 2017
 when will it be back in stock
by: Anonymous

I see that Natpro is out of stock again. When will it be back in stock. I am just starting to feel better and I have been using a lot to keep the oestrogen symptoms at bay. Will be out in a few days and don't want to go through the panic attacks and anxiety that it first caused until I was using about 800 mg / day. What are the best alternatives??

From Support: a new batch is currently being checked into the fulfilment warehouse and the shopping cart will likely be activated in the next 48 hours.
Jul 13, 2017
 They are always out of stock
by: Anonymous

Which is very distressing for us customers.

It has been such an awful journey trying to get better and doing It Wray's way, but it was working, and then, no stock again, which means we, the customer has to deal with all they symptoms coming back again, as we can't get the product.

I gave up months ago, and starting buying another brand.

I am very disappointed in the way they are always out of stock.

bad business management.
Jul 14, 2017
 When will Natpro be back in stock
by: Joy

I think that perhaps you are looking at our Tubes which have been out of stock for some time now. Our Dispensers are available and have been for sometime now. Perhaps you would like to order those, they contain 40mg more cream compared to the Tubes.

Enjoy your day.

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