Unhappy and worried

by Susan
(Australia)

Hi Wray. I've been waiting for my cream for a while now and my husband has been trying to trace the shipment without much success. I really need to get my cream even though I havent tried yours yet I believe it will help with all my symptoms of depression confusion hopelessness menopause etc. I don't even know where to start with this but I've also lost contact with you somewhere including the emails and stories of other women experiencing lifes difficulties - I appreciate that you're busy too and understand that you're only one person trying to get through all the letters but I am at my wits end and feel really sad about everything. All hinges on when I receive my cream. What can I do? Please help me feel connected again. I live in Australia and wish you had an agent here which would make it much easier this end. Please help me get the cream...nobody seems to know what's happened to it.

Note from webmaster: Hi Susan, please send a message to Natpro support here giving the details of your order. They will get back to you within 48 hours. Wray is travelling at present so it may be a few days before she gets to see your post. Thanks for your patience.

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Jun 26, 2011
Unhappy and worried
by: Wray

Hi Susan I'm sorry you're having trouble with getting the cream, in can take a month to get to Australia. Unfortunately it's not possible to trace the cream once it leaves the States. The emails you received are automated, and only last a month. We don't want to bore people too much! I feel the progesterone will help you, it certainly helped me and many thousands of others. But I also feel you will need a high amount, judging by your desperation. I normally recommend 100-200mg/day, but think you should start on the 200mg/day. Please see this comment here for encouragement. We do have agents in Australia, or I should say therapists who understand it's use, but they cannot hold stock as the law forbids it, mores the pity. We do have a page on Anxiety, please read through it, as there's a list of nutrients which will also help you. But I believe you have a vitamin D deficiency, it's rife in Australia, because of the daft policy of covering up when in the sun. Nothing could be more dangerous to our health, it's the only way we can naturally make vitamin D. A lack causes depression, anxiety, confusion etc. Plus it reduces the benefits of progesterone. Please have a test done, for more info see the Vitamin D Council and GrassrootsHealth websites. Closer to home, you could try Blake Graham who runs an excellent clinic in Perth. He understands biochemical imbalances. When you do start using the cream, please read our page on Oestrogen Dominance first. This often occurs, particularly if oestrogen levels are high. And you might like to read our page on Menopause. You don't give your age, but as you might still be in Peri-menopause when symptoms are worst, please look through this too. Take care Wray

Jun 29, 2011
Unhappy & worried - Perth Oz.
by: Susan

Hi Wray

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I really do appreciate it. My age is 47 BTW. My hubby has been in contact with Mal from support people and apparently the cream hasn't even made it into the country yet so your company will be sending more cream plus extra tube - thanks! I will also be tracing the other tube that I've ordered which was also lost. I will definately be looking for the Perth contact as well.

Hugs to you.

Susan

Jun 29, 2011
Unhappy & worried - Perth Oz.
by: Wray

Hi Susan I'm so happy it's been resolved and you're getting an extra tube too! I see the link I gave you for the clinic was not included in my last reply, so I'm giving it again, see Blake Graham. Hugs to you too! Take care Wray

Jul 11, 2011
Not unhappy any more
by: Susan

Hi Wray
I just thought I'd let you know that my second lot of creams have just arrived today (first one went AWOL) and I've immediately used 1 measured teaspoon (approx 5mls) straight up. I was so excited when the package arrived that I was shaking trying to open it and am still in overdrive. I will keep you posted and others reading any of this and I'm sure I will back on track soon. I've taken your advise about using the 100-200mg per day to dominate the estrogen levels.
Thanks for all your help - you're an absolute Godsend.
Susan

Jul 14, 2011
Not unhappy any more
by: Wray

Hi Susan So sorry the first order went AWOL, but very happy you have finally received the cream! And please watch for oestrogen dominance, you were not in a good space when you originally wrote. So I feel you could have problems initially, but please persevere. You might find encouragement in reading these comments from women who had to use high amounts before finding relief, see here, here, here and here. And I see again the link I gave you for Blake Graham still didn't come through, this time it should! Bless you for the kind words! Take care Wray

Jul 16, 2011
Double check doseage
by: Susan

Hi again Wray for all your help and great info. I have now been using the natpro cream for nearly 7 days now and just wanted to update on what my body is now doing and double checking that 'thing's are supposed to be doing as they should. For the first 4 days I was using the half tsp (measured) twice a day and then on the 5th day I began to give another half measured tsp at midday just to really saturate my body and overcome the estrogen dominance. Most of the time I have been experiencing huge bloating and and nausea also felt a bit tired the first noon application but nice and relaxed which even the family commented on lol. The bloating was so bad that I found it hard to tie my shoes up because it hurt to bend. Other sytmptoms are slight dizziness, wind, night sweats (but decreasing), terrible weight gain but that was before the cream and I couldn't exercise anymore until I received the cream due to aching body so I put on an extra 1-2 kilos, and awful backache which seems to come and go. My skin broke out with a few little pimples but now it's so smooth and looking so very clear and soft which is bonus. So Wray could you please just reassure me that I'm doing the right thing here. Also got the link for Blake Graham too - thanks! bless you Wray and thanks for your advise.
Susan

Jul 22, 2011
Also...
by: Susan

Wray I also just want to add from last comment that it's now day 13 and as of yesterday I've up'd the doseage to 1 tspn three times a day because I just needed to absolutely saturate these estrogen dom symptoms and fast also feeling depressed and sad for no apparent reason. I don't have a problem doing this but last night the tip of my 'ring finger' on my right hand feels numb and I'm not sure if it's because of the increase in doseage or the fact that (pls don't laugh) I've been crotcheting and possible had my hand/finger in a funny position. Although I've never had that before. I'm also retaining alot of fluid which could be another thing - not exactly sure. Could you please advise me again? You know it's funny how as an adult woman and after reading pretty much everything (although not retaining all info - lol)on your website I still feel the need for reassurance. But I guess that's how it is when trying new things and basically it's a form of self-preservation to even be here in the first place trying to better my quality of life. I really value your help and dare I even be so bold as to say friendship because that's how it feels to me. Thanks Wray so much for taking care of us women and loving us in such a committed way. Much love, Susan

Aug 04, 2011
Double check doseage
by: Wray

Hi Susan Bless you for the kind words, they made my nose 'prickle'! This happens whenever someone has touched a cord within me. And now to reassure you, I thought you would have bad oestrogen dominance, you had such severe symptoms to begin with. Sadly this is almost always the case, just when someone is desperately trying to feel well, they feel worse! The nausea is caused by oestrogen, many women get this when first pregnant. It's due to rising corpus luteum progesterone, stimulating oestrogen. But once progesterone becomes dominant it goes, except in severe cases of hyperemesis. And then of course supplemental progesterone does stop it, as it will with you. The bloating will go too, progesterone is an excellent diuretic. So good it's now given via IV transfusion to brain trauma victims, to prevent the oedema and inflammation that occurs due to the injury. Incidentally, over 70% of TBI victims are men, see here and here. I'm happy you are at least getting some benefit! The relaxed feeling is due to it's calming effect, it activates the GABA receptor sites, GABA is one of our most calming neurotransmitters, see here. And I'm delighted you've noticed your skin is getting soft, progesterone is excellent for skin, see here. I'm running out of space, so will start a new comment below. Take care Wray

Aug 04, 2011
Double check doseage
by: Wray

Hi Susan I'm answering your next query here too, I'm sorry I can't get round to them as quickly as I'd like to. The amount you are using is very good, and I hope your symptoms reduce quickly. Then you will be able to slowly reduce the amount you are using. The depression and sadness should pass, as progesterone does increase serotonin slightly. But if you feel you need more help, please see our page on Anxiety for a list of nutrients which all help. Above all please take at least 5000iu's per day of vitamin D, I think I did ask you to have a test done, and gave you the link to the websites with more info? I won't laugh about your crocheting! It could be that, or the water retention, most likely both. I do so understand about the need for reassurance, especially trying something so new. Plus reading and hearing about the dire things progesterone can do to us! It's such a pity it has a bad reputation in some circles, all due to using the recommended amount of 20-40mg/day. This will only exacerbate things. I accept your 'virtual' friendship! And much love to you too. Take care Wray

Sep 01, 2011
Periods closer
by: Susan

Hi Wray...I have another question regarding my periods. I have now had two periods which are two weeks apart and they're very heavy bleeds. They were all over the place with months in between due to perimenopause but now they're closer and not to mention it's enough to get them once a month (prior to menopause) but every two weeks is a bit much. I am now using doseage of half tsp in morning and noon-ish and then full tsp at night. Should I up it again or just wait to see what eventuates? The fluid rentention has been slightly better too as long as I keep eating correctly....except when I want chocolate like last night - bit bloated today but will cope. I really am so grateful for all the advise and help you've already given me coz I know without this cream and your website and the wonderful thing you've done for women world wide I would probably not be here today. Also my skin is VERY dry on my face esp eyebrows (weird) and my back. Is there anything else I need to know? Thanks again Wray.

p.s. I've given the link to your website to so many of my friends and also people my husband has spoken to at his work who I only 'meet' through emails passed to me from him. It's the best!

Sep 03, 2011
Periods closer
by: Wray

Hi Susan Good to hear from you again. When first using progesterone it can upset the cycle, making it either early or late. Although I've found it's more often than not earlier than normal, which is a bore. Two periods in one month is not something I'd wish on anyone! The heavier bleeding is always encouraging to me, as it means the lining is coming away. Often it doesn't all detach from the uterine wall, some does gets re-absorbed each month, but some remains. This usually comes out as clots when first starting progesterone, have you noticed any? This is obviously a good thing, as it indicates the lining is returning to normal, and not thickened due to excess oestrogen. You are now using about 2 tsp per day, or 330mg progesterone. This is the amount I use when I want to 'top' myself up, usually after a stressful patch! I will have to leave it up to you whether you increase it, as it really depends on one's pocket. But if the bloating, albeit slightly better, gets you down, by all means use more. You might try using more during the last 7 days, this might stop the second bleed occurring. I can't say if it will, as peri-menopause is such a difficult time, periods become so erratic. The skin can become dry, oestrogen does nothing for it, see here and here, although we're told it does! Progesterone on the other hand, does help it, see here. I would hope it settles down soon, but suggest you increase the good fats and oils, like coconut, butter, olive and MCT. This last oil is a medium chain triglyceride that goes by the name of caprylic/capric triglyceride, it's the oil we use in Natpro. It's wonderful for the skin, exceptionally light and fine, in fact looks like water and is absorbed very well. It can be taken, in fact it's very effective against Candida too. But it does have a laxative effect so beware of taking too much! It really makes the skin so soft. And bless you for giving the site to your friends! Incidentally progesterone is very good for men too, we've many using it for BPH, prostate cancer, low libido and stress. You might like to see these comments here, here and here. Take care Wray

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