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Suggestions Please!!!

by Cristina
(Saint Augustine, FL)

About 2 years ago, I was diagnosed with stage 3 endometriosis. I stumbled accross a natural hormone dr. who put me on 800mg of prometrium (progestrone) everday after discovering my estrogen levels were over 800. I am 25 years old. Is 800mg of progestrone everyday, too much? I've been on it since June 2012. I do not get a period, so I am not sure if my body still ovulates on this amount? My husband and I would like to have children, however after going through a CRAZY round of IVF unsucessfully, I am not wanting to go back to the fertility route at this point. Any suggestions you can offer or help would be GREATLY appreciated. My Dr. has only suggested seeking out a fertility Dr. to undergo IVF again. I would like to stay away from that!

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Jan 26, 2013
Suggestions please.
by: Peg

I was diagnosed with moderate to severe endo, with andometriosis, and a ovarian cyst. I gound Endovan and took it for 12 weeks. My hysterectomy was uterus and cervix only. My ovaries were saved. No cyst, and no endo on the ovaries or tubes.



Jan 28, 2013
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by: Wray

Hi Christina Well the amount of progesterone is excellent, but as it's oral progesterone you're not getting the full benefit. It's the least effective Delivery system. Most of it gets destroyed in the gut and liver....."The liver and gut region removed a mean of 96 per cent of the progesterone entering these tissues" see here. Although I tend to say about 10-20% is available, rather than only 4%. Which means you were getting about 80-160mg/day. I suggest you open the caps and add the contents to a small amount of cream and apply that to your skin. It should be used a minimum of twice a day too, as levels begin dropping after about 13 hours. Endometriosis is caused by oxidative stress, and exacerbated by oestrogen, large amounts of antioxidants are needed to reverse it. In particular vitamin D, please have a test done. For more info on vitamin D levels, test kits etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth and Birmingham Hospital. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml (175-250nmol/L) and not the 30ng/ml (75nmol/L) most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although recent research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. A lack of vitamin D reduces the benefits of progesterone, see here, here and here. Plus it's vital for ovulation, as is progesterone of course. We do have a page on Pregnancy and another here. Please take time to look at the vitamin D videos too. Continued below

Jan 28, 2013
Suggestions Please!!! Part 2
by: Wray

Hi Christina Both Progesterone and Vitamin D are vital for a successful pregnancy, but you have to reverse the endo first. I'm amazed they even considered doing IVF. Ironically they've just found out that vitamin D increases the chances of successful implantation after IVF, see here and here. Using the amount of progesterone you are, before ovulation, it does act as a Contraceptive, albeit a safe one, unlike the drug based. I suggest you continue using the progesterone daily for another 3 months, but by applying it to your skin. Plus take high dose antioxidants to reverse the endo, this could take 3-6 months to correct itself. Once you feel ready you can initiate a cycle by stopping the progesterone. If the endo is not fully healed, symptoms will come back, in which case continue using it daily until you feel you'd like to try again. Please let me know the results of the vitamin D test. Take care Wray

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