Still Confused, just started Progesterone Cream

by Paul A Bennema
(Chicago, Illinois USA)

When I turned 63 I was diagnosed with early stage Prostate cancer. That was in July of '06. I did not want the operation to remove the prostate so the Doctor and I agreed that we would start watching and waiting and see if the cancer would progress on its own. I will now be 68 this year.

I have been on Proscar for the last 4 and 1/2 years and the cancer has not progressed however my sex drive has dropped by about 80% along with any real interest which is a side effect of the medicine. My PSA reading has dropped from over 9 to the middle 2's. (checked every 6 months). My last reading in Dec. '10 was 1.42.

Because of side effects I decided to stop Proscar (Finasteride) 35 days ago and replace it with Progesterone cream. I have been reading about it extensively and came across your website.

I plan to see my regular doctor next week to request a saliva hormone test because there is alot of info suggesting that you have to know where you are with your hormones before adding others like testosterone.

The question I have and what I am confused about is that the famous hormone specialist, the late Dr. John Lee states that men should take about 10 MG a day where you keep saying that up 100 MG a day or maybe more is ok for a man.

Can you just lell me how safe progesterone cream is for men and can I take 100MG a day (or more) and for how long? I have been feeling lousy at times with the cream which I think it is because of the estrogen dominence. I don't know what signs to look for when I am finally in control of the estrogen. Why is Dr. Lee so conservative?

Thank You For Your Help!!

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Apr 18, 2011
 Still Confused, just started Progesterone Cream
by: Wray

Hi Paul I do recommend more progesterone than most, it's from having used it, advised on it's use and read hundreds of studies for 15 years now. Plus feedback I get from users. It really depends on the problem/disease that's being experienced. Dr Dalton would use up to 2400mg/day for her female patients with post natal psychosis, successfully too. I might add she did not see eye to eye with Dr Lee, who she thought too conservative. But he does have some good things to say, see here. I have met her and encouraged by her high doses, I've advised the same. The amount generally recommended for women is 20mg/day, for men 10mg/day. But I've found these amounts ineffective if there is a problem. For instance women make 20mg/day in the luteal phase. If they are having problems, it's evident this amount is not working. I've also found too low a level merely exacerbates the Oestrogen Dominance, as you're finding. We do have many men using it successfully, you might like to read a few comments, see here, here and here. Incidentally progesterone is also an effective 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, see here, here, here, here and here. You might like to see these papers on PSA here, here and here. And these on oestrogen here, here, here and here. I've run out of space, so will start a new comment below. Take care Wray
Apr 18, 2011
 Still Confused, just started Progesterone Cream
by: Wray

Hi again Paul Plus these on cancer here, here, here, here, here and here. The amount of progesterone to use will be up to you and experimenting with it, as I ask everyone to do. It's safety is without question, over 1200mg/day is given via IV transfusion to brain trauma victims, over 70% are men, see here, here and here. The only sign I can give you once you've overcome the oestrogen dominance is feeling well! You might be interested to learn that the jury is still out on whether testosterone increases libido, it appears progesterone is possibly the key hormone, see here. Although finasteride reduces libido, it could be your dopamine is too low, has this been checked? It's essential for sexual arousal, see here, here,here, here, here and here. Finally please have a vitamin D test done, too low a level is implicated in over 20 cancers. For more info see the Vitamin D council and GrassrootsHealth websites. I've run out of space again! I can see I'll have to do a web page with all the info on it. Take care Wray
Apr 18, 2011
 Still Confused, just started Progesterone Cream
by: Wray

Hi Paul Please see these excellent videos too here, here and here. Plus these papers on vitamin D and cancer here, here, here, here, here and here. Take care Wray
Jul 30, 2011
 Still Confused
by: Paul Bennema

Wray, Thank you so much for your help. From one of your recommendations I have also started using MCT Oil found in coconut oil. It has helped out tremendously with my candida. I have to take the oil for a minimum of 6 months before I have given it a true test. Some of your readers may be interested in some of Dr. Bruce Fife's books covering research on coconut oil and how it has helped so many people.

I still am taking the progesterone cream with the Finasteride and my PSA readings are staying in the low ones and twos. My last reading on 7/26/11 was 1.75.
Aug 05, 2011
 Still Confused
by: Wray

Hi Paul I'm delighted you're trying the MCT oil, I've found it far better than anything else. I'm not sure if you've seen our page on Candida, it covers as much as I can find. I do hope you can get off the finasteride, it can cause depression, here and here. Interestingly the next paper suggests DHT is a most important brain hormone, see here. It does make me wonder how well we know the body, the way we administer drugs. I'm pleased your PSA is so low, but you might be surprised to find it's not a significant factor! See here, here and here. Thanks for the info re Fife's books, I must look into them, as I'm a great believer in the benefits of the coconut, and not just the oil, but the milk and flesh too. The oil must be virgin coconut oil, see here. Take care Wray

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