Progesterone after a Total abdominal hysterectomy

by Angel
(Ohio)

I had a TAH both ovaries removed in Jan. of this year. My doc. put me on Vivelle dot and left it at that. I keep asking her to check my hormone levels but she says there is no need.

I don't feel like myself since the surgery and asked her about progesterone. She says that since I don't have a uterus or ovaries I don't need it. I have so many symptoms that tells me other wise. I have cramps, bloating, my feet and hands are swollen, I am extremely moody, anxious, extremely tired all day, can't sleep good, I crave sweets especially at night, and I have gained 10 lbs. in a few months. What can I do? I feel helpless.

Thanks.

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Aug 21, 2011
Use Natpro
by: CamperKat

First off, I am so sorry for your total surgery...it must have been difficult to deal with, both the surgery itself and the possible psychological aspects of it.

Your doctor is wrong about progesterone. Most of them are. This is old school thinking: "No uterus/no ovaries, just give some estrogen. Progesterone is only necessary for pregnancy."

This sort of nonsense falls into line with other old school thinking: the FDA has brainwashed all of us to believe that all saturated fat is bad for us and that only liquid oils like soybean are good for us. But now we know that real butter from cows that eat grass has high-vitamin content and high levels of linolenic acid. And GRASS FED beef has natural Omega-3s and therefore this is a healthy profile. All "tests" were done on industrially-raised meat that is fed corn and other grains and now has Omega-6 fats in its profile...So, see what I mean about old school thinking?

Vivelle is a bio-identical hormone, it's true--it's man-made, but its molecules match ours perfectly. But it is only estrogen. Estrogen should never be given without bio-identical progesterone. The reason you are feeling worse and have gained weight is that (1) it takes a very long time to recover from traumatic surgery like yours, and (2) it can take up to a couple of years for your body to adjust to hormone changes, and (3) you are likely now estrogen dominant.

Please go to Amazon or your local bookstore and buy this book by Dr. John Lee, called "What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Menopause". Read the reviews on Amazon, especially mine, because Dr. Lee passed in 2003 and the quantities of progesterone cream he recommends are too low--research has progressed since his passing. Dr. Lee was a Harvard MD who spent his years of his family practice prescribing bio-identical progesterone cream, and he found that it helps prevent and cure osteoporosis, thyroid issues, helps prevent breast cancer and helps male patients recover from prostate cancer (you see, we ALL need progesterone.)

As for your doctor...s/he is not listening to you. Inisist on the tests. Insist on the cream. If the doctor blows you off--go find a new doctor who will partner with you. It's YOUR body, YOUR health--they work for you.

Much luck to you.

Aug 22, 2011
wray where are you?
by: Anonymous

I always found Wray's comments and advice after people's questions so interesting and valuable. For months now all I see is the questions and although they are sometimes relevant to me, I delete them because there is no response from Wray and I just feel depressed and worried for the people and myself. Where are you Wray?

Aug 22, 2011
Progesterone after a Total abdominal hysterectomy
by: Wray

Hi Angel It's too late to say don't have a hyst, especially one which removes the ovaries. But maybe you had cancer? I don't believe any woman needs more oestrogen, please see our page on HRT. And you are right, all your symptoms point to low progesterone, which doesn't surprise me as they removed your ovaries. The prime source of progesterone. Besides which the patch you are using is giving you only oestradiol, the most potent oestrogen, see here. Ironically our fat cells continue to make oestrogen till we die, but not progesterone. But oestrogen also stimulates fat cells to make oestrogen, so a vicious cycle starts. So I'm not surprised you've put on weight. The last thing we need is more. Oestrogen also destabilises blood glucose, causing Insulin Resistance, which results in tiredness and cravings. It's mistaken advice to say you don't need progesterone without a uterus. What do they think happens to our levels after a TAH? Why give only oestrogen? And why did we need progesterone in the first place? I can assure you the body doesn't make it just to protect the uterus from oestrogen or for reproductive purposes. As CamperKat says, we've been brainwashed. Progesterone regulates gene expression, has a positive fundamental effect on cell differentiation and growth, with anti-oxidative and autoimmune anti-inflammatory mechanisms. It positively effects the nervous system by stimulating neurotrophic factors, quenching oxidative hyperactivity and regulating autoimmune responses. Progesterone is to my mind more vital than oestrogen, although we do need both for balance. If you should consider using it, I recommend 100-200mg/day, more if symptoms are severe. As yours are, I suggest you start on the higher amount, and see how you get on. As you are now full of oestradiol, I know you will experience Oestrogen Dominance, please be aware of this. And increase the amount of progesterone when it does occur. It's very safe, many women use amounts far higher than those I've suggested. Please don't be discouraged should the oestrogen dominance occur. As you've had a hyst, please see our page on Menopause for more info on using progesterone. Take care Wray

Aug 22, 2011
Use Natpro
by: Wray

Hi CamperKat Your support is always so invaluable, but people will begin to think I employ you to recommend Natpro! I do believe it's a good cream, and I know it's absorbed well from saliva tests, but I have no problem with people using other creams. The choice is theirs and I'm happy to answer their questions too. You've been amazing over the time you found our site, and bless you for joining in. Please don't stop! Take care Wray

Aug 22, 2011
wray where are you?
by: Wray

Hi there I've gone nowhere! I take my computer with me wherever I go, even on holiday. But thanks so much for your kind words and support too, it means much to me. If you want to read the latest comments, please go to the left hand margin and scroll down to 'blogs', see here. Take care Wray

Aug 22, 2011
wray where are you?
by: Wray

Hi there I've gone nowhere! I take my computer with me wherever I go, even on holiday. But thanks so much for your kind words and support too, it means much to me. If you want to read the latest comments, please go to the left hand margin and scroll down to 'blogs', see here. Take care Wray

Jun 08, 2013
Concerned
by: Anonymous

I had a hysterectomy done 5 yrs. ago and was put on both estrogen and progesterone. Just recently my Dr. has taken me off the progesterone==is this a wise decision

Jun 10, 2013
Concerned
by: Wray

Hi there Could you clarify whether the 'progesterone' you were given was in fact progesterone and not a progestin. Doctors often use the word interchangeably. In an effort to regain the billions the drug companies lost due to the results of the WHI study, new studies show that oestrogen alone will not cause the same side effects as the combined oestrogen/progestin as found in HRT. So this could be the reason your doctor took you off the 'progesterone'. Even if it was natural, he might still think it has the same affect. I don't believe any woman needs extra oestrogen, the risks to my mind are not worth it. These are all outlined on the HRT page. Whereas there are no risks with progesterone. We do have a page on Menopause you could look through. Take care Wray

Sep 02, 2013
one ovary after hysterectomy
by: Anonymous

Is progesterone necessary after hysterectomy leaving one ovary?

Sep 07, 2013
one ovary after hysterectomy
by: Wray

Hi there Only if you are getting adverse symptoms. You could look through these three pages we have on Peri-menopause, Menopause and Oestrogen Dominance. Take care Wray

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