PCO/Heavy Bleeding/Anemia

by Elaine S.
(Ohio, USA)

I am 43 always had PCO and heavy bleeding. I have taken Vitex (chaste berry) to regulate my periods, but did nothing for the heavy periods. From many years of progesterone deficiency, natural progesterone cream and even Prometrium did nothing for my heavy bleeding, which of course, led to anemia. At the recommendation of my ob/gyn, I am having a D&C.

In order to keep the heavy bleeding from returning, how much natural progesterone cream will I need to use?

Thank you.

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PCO/Heavy Bleeding/Anemia

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Jan 02, 2011
 PCO/Heavy Bleeding/Anemia
by: Wray

Hi Elaine I'm not in favour of vitex, it has oestrogenic properties. You certainly don't need more oestrogen, this is the cause of the heavy bleeding. Oestrogen is a mitogen, it stimulates cells to grow. Vital in stimulating the endometrium each month to grow and thicken ready for a possible fertilised egg. But in excess it stimulates cells to continue growing. MMP?s are enzymes that break down protein. They play a role in the breakdown of endometrial tissues at the end of the menstrual cycle. If they are over active, as would be the case with excess oestrogen in the body, as oestrogen stimulates their production, the result is a pathological reaction. A high level of MMP's can lead to inflammation and excessive bleeding in the uterus. If a low level of progesterone is present, and a high level of oestrogen, the lining will continue to grow. With a high level of MMP's the lining will also continue to break down. Progesterone suppresses both MMP's and oestrogen.

It is essential to use a high amount of progesterone, between 400-600mg/day. If the bleeding is continual, use it both daily and hourly. Using it hourly keeps the level high throughout the day. If there is a cycle, it?s best to ignore it and use the progesterone daily, hourly too, until the bleeding is under control. The progesterone can be used to regulate the cycle once bleeding has stopped. For more info on this see our page on Peri-menopause. If you should consider following my suggestion, please read our page on Oestrogen Dominance first. The chances are you won't get it if you use such a high amount of progesterone. It's generally only felt if a low level is used, such as 20-40mg/day. Take care Wray
May 21, 2012
 Vitex and Progesterone Cream together?
by: Ann

Hi
I am so glad i found this site, I have been using Dr. Lee's Progesterone cream for months, after discovering to suffer from Estrogen dominance.
I feel so much better, but I want to continue the therapy and want to switch to Natpro because my cream contains some soy and i have never liked that, I see Natpro does not contain any!!

I wanted to know if I could take Vitex only during the 14 days previous to my period (when I do not use the cream) and then use the cream starting on day 14, but in this way decrease the dose of the cream, so alternating 14 days of Vitex and 14 days of cream, but in lesser amount?

Now I use about 1 tablespoon, I wanted to decrease a bit, and use Vitex in combination,
Would this be good?

I see you are not in favor of Vitex, am I right?
it is so confusing, because many medical sites state that Vitex helps in the Progesterone production, even if it is not as strong as a cream, and other site state that it does not work at all
The doctors I have consulted seem to have very little or no knowledge at all about both progesterone cream or this Vitex and how it works, so it is just a guess

I was hoping that this way I could slowly decrease the dose of the cream as I am feeling better and eventually after 6 more months, switch to Vitex completely and go from there

Would you please kindly give me your advises?

Thankx a lot
blessings
Ann

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