Need of low dose estrogen?

by Dee
(NYC)

Hi Wray,

I read something in one of your articles or email responses that sometimes if symptoms don't improve after using progesterone, that you said a small amount of estrogen could be added in.

I have been following your suggestions of using 200mgs of progesterone a day, sometimes 250 for about 4 weeks. I stopped using an Estogen patch, a 00.25mg of the Vivelle Dot patch around the same time.

I ordered and used a tube of Natpro, and my holistic MD also prescribed a jar of mircronized progesterone from a compound pharmacy, 200mg for each dose.

So my question is:

1. When I initially put on the progesterone cream, either yours or the compound cream, I get a hot flash.

2. Could you clarify your thoughts on when a low dose of estrogen should be added in and when that should happen.

Thanks so much.

dee

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Mar 04, 2015
Need of low dose estrogen?
by: Wray

Hi Dee I can't ever recall saying use oestrogen if symptoms don't improve. I feel all of us have too much as it is from our environment, see Our Stolen Future. We do have a page on Hot Flushes which should answer your query. And also on our Oestrogen Dominance page too, the progesterone is ramping up the oestrogen, it takes time for this to settle down. Take care Wray

Mar 04, 2015
Low dose estrogen
by: Dee

Hi Wray,

Thanks for your response. I did find where you had written it and it was in response to someone who had written in about Progesteron and HRT-think this was from your newsletter emails on February 23rd

I am not looking to say "ah ha" just trying to relieve the physical and emotional upset I am going through. I have two questions and then your comments from the newsletter are below.

Dee

1. So the fact that I am experiencing hot flashes for the past month even with the increase in progesterone (about 200mgs per day) may mean I need to go up?

2. Do you know why when I put on the progesterone cream, I get a hot flash about and hour later and also feel like crying?


Most women don't need any estrogen if using progesterone, but I have found that there are a few who suffer from hot flushes or vaginal dryness who find that they don't respond quickly enough to the progesterone. In this case I suggest they use something like Estrogel, which is a natural estrogen. So if you do find you need it, then go ahead.

3. If someone does feel they need a natural estrogen, how much should they start with?

Mar 05, 2015
Low dose estrogen
by: Wray

Hi Dee Ah those emails are sent out to people who do the questionnaire. They are only sent for a month, and date back almost 20 years! I really should get the webmaster to update them. Some women don't or won't go through the Oestrogen Dominance that occurs when first using progesterone. It can last 3-6 months too, disconcerting! So it is best they follow what their doctor says, and use oestrogen. If you read the info on the Hot Flushes page, you'll see 400mg/day is sometimes needed, not 200mg/day. It is essential to check vitamin D levels too. The 2nd question falls under oestrogen dominance, progesterone ramps up the oestrogen and many symptoms can occur. Some of which are listed on the page, but by no means all of them! And quite frankly I haven't a clue how much oestrogen someone should use, I don't advocate it's use at all, as I believe we all have far too much. It's best to ask your doctor, or you could look at our HRT page, as there are doses there. Take care Wray

Mar 09, 2015
same experience
by: Anonymous

Dee,
I am glued to this website and have found the exact same quote from Wray and felt a bit confused. However, and I am not saying that Wray has recommended this, but I have worked my way up to 1000mg of progesterone a day. 500 in the am and 500 in the pm. I can't tell you the improvement in my symptoms, and like you, I had worse symptoms at the first of my use. I cant believe the info I glean from this site, and I cant believe the heat this lady must take for her valiant stand for women and our well being. I thank her and read on this website daily!!! I bought the book she highly recommends by Dr Michael E. Platt, The Miracle of Bio-Identical Hormones. I have been set free. I am 54 years old and have suffered from PCOS, Insulin Resistance, Estrogen Dominance, and low thyroid. I have made mega dollars for Drs., but felt terrible and dragging myself through life with my constitution. This website has encouraged me to dig deeper, and most importantly, take my health into my own hands!

Mar 18, 2015
same experience
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for the kind words about the site and me! I have taken some flack, but the change in people after using high amounts of progesterone has more than made up for it. I'm so delighted to hear you have been helped too. Take care Wray

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