Natural Progesterone in the UK?

by Lindsay Smith
(UK)

I suffered from terrible post natal depression and anxiety after my first child. I am trying to conceive my second but am seriously worried about the return of pnd.

I live in the UK and natural progesterone isn't as readily availble as it is in the US or indeed recognised as a solution to pnd. The doctors simply prescribe the contraceptive pill for any hormonal imbalance and of course this is synthetic progesterone. I have discussed this with my consultant who claims its not recognised by the British medical council so cannot be perscribed.

I am happy to use the Natpro cream and have found it beneficial with my pms and anxiety before my period. Will this be enough to prevent pnd? Can you give me any suggestions on how to use the cream through pregnancy (I did also suffer awful morning sickness for the first 4 months), how much to use and when and also after the birth?

Is there anyone I can contact in the UK that would prescribe natural progesterone for me? Or if I can obtain the suppositories online? Many thanks.

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Oct 31, 2010
 Natural Progesterone in the UK?
by: Wray

Hi Lindsay I suffered from PND too, so know what you went through. In fact I never had another child because of this experience! Progesterone does indeed help, Dr Dalton used it for her patients with PND very successfully. The amount depends on the severity, for instance she would give up to 2400mg/day for post natal psychosis. Obviously the idea is to prevent something like this occurring, because once started it requires far higher amounts than if used as a preventative. The same applies to hyperemesis too, once started I've found at least 330mg/day progesterone is needed to stop the nausea. Even then it can take two months before it calms down. I'm puzzled you say the BMC doesn't recognise it, Dr Dalton used Cyclogest suppositories in the late 40's, early 50's, 60 years ago! See Cyclogest info and Actavis UK Ltd Clyclogest. I've used suppositories before, and must confess to far preferring the cream, I've found it works as well too. One advantage it can be applied anywhere, for more info on delivery systems, please see our page on Progesterone application methods. I've helped women with recurrent miscarriages, mild nausea, hyperemesis and PND using the cream. The other advantage to the cream is ease of use. If symptoms are mild less is needed, if severe more can be applied. I've found with severe symptoms from any cause, it's best to use it hourly. It is possible of course that the PND will not recur. Dalton studied this in depth and found no pattern, even in women with multiple pregnancies. Please read through our page on Pregnancy, it gives info on how and when to use progesterone. Please see this link too, Dr Dalton wrote an excellent book on PND, well worth getting. Please consider taking these nutrients, all vital for a developing foetus. Taurine, see
here, here and here. Vitamin D, see here, and here. And Omega 3, see here. Take care Wray
Oct 31, 2010
 Natpro in UK
by: Linda Otley

Dear Lindsay, You can purchase Natpro in the UK - log on to http://buynaturalprogesterone.co.uk/.

I order 3 months supply at a time and they deliver to my home address (Highlands of Scotland) in 2-3 working days.

Kind regards
Linda
Nov 03, 2010
 Natpro in UK
by: Wray

Hi Linda Thanks for giving Lindsay this link, Jean is very prompt over getting orders out. Take care Wray
Nov 03, 2010
 is the cream enough?
by: Lindsay

Hi Wray, thanks for your comments. So you believe I could self treat myself using the Natpro cream only? Throughout pregnancy and after the birth? Or should I stop using the cream at month 4 until after the birth? Surely using the cream through pregnancy would mean I would have to increase the amount used after the birth as the progesterone levels fall?

I am a little confused to how much Natpro I should be using, can you advise in terms of how much cream I should use in say teaspoons?

Many thanks, again
Lindsay
Nov 07, 2010
 is the cream enough?
by: Wray

Hi Lindsay Unless you can find a doctor sympathetic to the use of progesterone during pregnancy, you will have to treat yourself. Fertility specialists use it after an IVF procedure, and some obgyns use it if patients experience recurrent miscarriages. But a woman from Scotland has just written saying she's had 15 miscarriages in the last 6 years, and no one knows why, as all tests were 'normal'! I do give advice on how much to use during Pregnancy. But as you've had hyperemesis before, I suggest starting with 200mg/day, which is 6ml (1 1/5 tsp) of cream. A kitchen measuring spoon is fine, the amount doesn't have to be exact. But please start before you fall pregnant. If you feel fine by the third or fourth month, you can reduce the amount, but do so very gradually. Dr Dalton often kept her patients on the progesterone throughout pregnancy, there's no harm done. In fact she found her 'progesterone babies' as she called them, were more intelligent. On the other link I gave you Dr Dalton says...... "After the baby has been safely delivered, the mother should be given the first of seven daily progesterone injections: of 100 mg followed by 400 mg progesterone suppositories twice daily for the next two months or until normal menstruation returns." I feel the injections are an unnecessary pain, and would suggest the cream. Some can be used in the vagina too, as it reaches the uterus within minutes, see here. But would recommend 200mg/day, as Dalton says, starting after delivery. But keep a look out for symptoms of PND, if they should occur then increase the amount you are using until they go. It can be used hourly too, it keeps the level topped up. Interestingly enough my first symptom was unstable blood glucose, I was so hungry. Progesterone does help stabilise it, oestrogen causes it. The next symptom I had was tiredness, which went on to develop into exhaustion. I don't recall ever having 'depression', but had terrible rages. If you recall what your first symptoms were, you'll know you'll need to increase the progesterone the moment you feel them. Each ml of cream contains 33.3mg progesterone. Take care Wray

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