NatPro Arrived - A Few Questions Before I Begin Using It

by Leslie
(Colorado, USA)

I received my 1st shipment of NatPro (it arrived VERY quickly) and have a few questions before I start using it.

I am 44 years old and still have a period every month (25 day cycle). Do I start using it on day 11? And do I continue until the first day of my next period?

I'm a little worried about what effects it may have on my asthma. I have had moderate asthma since I was a child. The only medication I use for asthma is albuterol in the form of nebulizer treatments about every 3-4 hours daily. Are there any concerns that I need to be aware of regarding my asthma when I begin using the NatPro?

My son (13) and I both get weekly allergy injections. Is it safe to use the NatPro in this situation? Would/could the NatPro help my son with his asthma/allergies? If so, how much would I use on him?

And last, I also have a daughter (just turned 10), that has horrible mood swings (happy one minute, pissed off the next). She's been having these for many years (at least since the age of 5) but the doctors don't seem to think that her moodiness is anything unusual (they haven't tried living with her!). Would NatPro help regulate and stabilize her moods or is she too young?

Thanks for all of your help!! I anxiously await your reply :)

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Feb 29, 2012
NatPro Arrived - A Few Questions Before I Begin Using It
by: Wray

Hi Leslie Thank you for reading about the timing of using progesterone! You are right, day 11 is when you would/should be ovulating. Unless symptoms are severe, in which case I recommend using it daily for 2-3 months, it is best to follow the cycle. It's also best to use it for the 14 days of the luteal phase, and not beyond if following the cycle. Bleeding should start within a day or two. But in the start up phase cycles can be disrupted, making bleeding earlier or later. It's nothing to be concerned about, and does sort itself out in time. It does make it difficult knowing when to start again. If this should happen, count day 1 as the first day of bleeding when it occurs and then start the cream again on day 11. I'm glad you told me about the asthma, as progesterone does have an effect, a beneficial one, see here and here. But symptoms can be exacerbated if too little is used. Oestrogen is an inflammatory hormone, and causes constriction of the smooth muscles. Progesterone relaxes airways and expands lung volume, it's vital for respiration, see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Please, please be aware of the Oestrogen Dominance effect. I know this sounds excessive, but I feel you should use no less than 400mg/day to begin with. This will ensure oestrogen is suppressed from the start, and progesterone becomes the dominant hormone. Continued below.

Feb 29, 2012
NatPro Arrived - A Few Questions Before I Begin Using It Part 2
by: Wray

Hi Leslie If adverse symptoms should occur I feel you should ignore your cycle and use it daily, through any bleeding too. Stopping and starting when following the cycle will allow oestrogen to rise again. I would prefer it if you had a sympathetic ear from a health practitioner when you start it. I'm trying to help a women in Slovenia who has asthma, she started it before asking me, using 125mg/day. She finally wrote saying the asthma had got worse, so she doubled the amount, 250mg/day. That has not helped, she is now trying the 400mg/day, but this is all very recent so I don't know if it's helped. I also asked her to do the treatment in conjunction with her doctors. She says they won't listen, even though she's found her peak flow is exactly the same when it's normal and when it drops, as in one of the progesterone studies. So she's experimenting alone. It can help your son, but again the same caution is advised, I suggest 50mg/day for him. This is higher than normal for the same reasons I've given you above. Interestingly it's been found infants suffering from respiratory distress syndrome have low progesterone, see here And your daughter, yes it would help, and no she's not too young. I love your comment that the doctors haven't tried living with her! I put mine on it when she was 14, I'd been using it for 6 months at this stage. Having had depression during puberty, I did not want her to have it. She's still using it and is now 30. You might like to see this page we have on the Menstruation Cycle. I think you will be amazed at the change that's occurring in women's cycles. Finally, I believe all three of you are probably very short of vitamin D. A lack of this can lead to asthma, see here, here, here and here. And early puberty too, as you'll see from the page I've given you. Please have tests done! Continued below.

Feb 29, 2012
NatPro Arrived - A Few Questions Before I Begin Using It Part 3
by: Wray

Hi Leslie For more info on vitamin D levels, testing etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Take care Wray

Feb 29, 2012
A Few Questions - continued
by: Leslie

Hi Wray,

Thank you for all of the valuable information you provided.

I had my Vit D level tested in May 2011 (25 hydroxy test). My reading was 20.7 which is pretty deficient! I am now taking 10,000 of the D3 a day. As far as my children are concerned, I will have them tested at their annual appt. next month, however, I agree with you that they are most likely deficient as well. I read that the safe level to supplement for children is 2,000. Would you concur?

Also, regarding the NatPro for my little girl, how much should I use for her? What types of things should I watch for to ensure that she is getting the right doseage? I want to make sure I get this right so as to not make her symptoms worse or add new issues that aren't currently there.

Regarding my asthma, my doctor is very western med. He doesn't believe in prescribing anything that big pharma doesn't benefit from.....but he'd sure be happy to write me an Rx for synthetic hormones! I may be on my own with this just like the lady from Slovenia. If I'm not able to find a new dr (one that is knowledgable about asthma AND progesterone) and fast, I'd like to recap to make sure I understand what your recommendations are.

I should begin using 400mg (12ml a day) of NatPro on day 11 of my cycle (which would be this Saturday). I'm assuming that I would divide that into 200mg in the a.m. and 200mg in the p.m. for 14 days? If my asthma flairs after the start of my period (when I am off the progesterone) then I should start using the progesterone again immediately regardless of where I am in my cycle and use it continuously month after month with no break, ignoring my cycle. Do I have that right? Also, if I don't have any flair up using the 400mg, would I back off of that dose? If so, what does the schedule for that look like?

Thanks again - I appreciate your help and wealth of knowledge!

Mar 01, 2012
A Few Questions - continued
by: Wray

Hi Leslie I'm so happy it was of help, but not happy you have to go it alone. But I suppose having lived with asthma for so long, you will be aware and know what to do if you get a flare up. Your vitamin D is/was low! I'm delighted you're taking the 10,000iu's, another test in a month or two will let you know how your level is doing. Mine is now 91.8ng/ml, a friend's is 139ng/ml, we never get ill. And yes you are quite correct about the 2000iu's/day for children, in fact a bunch of European paediatricians recommend giving that to infants if low. Dr Holick gave 5000iu's/day to one very sick infant, albeit it a gorilla! I suggest you start your daughter on 50mg/day, using more if symptoms worsen. These would be the same as those you've noticed in her, ie mood swings and being pissed off! She might get some of the other Oestrogen Dominance symptoms, ie water retention, headaches?, maybe 'feeling sore', which we would call aches and pains. As a child I never understood why adults would say they felt 'stiff' after overdoing exercise, I just felt sore! You are spot on re the protocol you've described. But if you feel like it, and are able to, you could divide the amount into far more than twice a day. Many women use it hourly for bad symptoms. And definitely, any time you feel symptoms come back start using the progesterone. Even if it's in the middle of your period. Once you feel stable on the high amount, how long that will take I don't know, you can begin reducing it. I normally say by no more than 16mg per reduction, or 1/2ml of cream, but you might find you can reduce quicker. Stay for a few days on the reduced amount before reducing further. Just keep a watch for adverse symptoms returning, and increase back up to the amount where you had none. This will eventually bring you to the optimal amount, not forgetting that in any stressful situation you'll need more. Please let me know how you get on, asthma, heart palpitations and seizures concern me, particularly if doing it alone. Take care Wray

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