My period started again.

by Liza-Mari
(Pretoria, South Africa)

Dear Wray

I dont know if you will remember me - I wrote to you last year about my multiple conditions and my family (especially my 2 boys) suffering because of my post natal depression (which I thought was PMS?!?!) - well I have been using 600mg per day (without a break) as you advised together with the calming complex and it gave me back my life!!! I am on the slow road to recovery.. I thank you for the free advice and sincere interest in our health...

I just want to ask my period completely stopped during the 3 months (I really enjoyed that!) but now yesterday it started again in full swing - I'm still using the same amount and eating the same foods more or less etc.

What does this mean? Should I carry on with the 600mg a day right through or should I follow a cycle again?

Again thank you for your interest in my health.

Kind regards

South Africa

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Feb 06, 2013
My period started again
by: Joy (South Africa)

Hi Liza-Mari

I am a bit confused as you asked me the same thing. I have emailed you Wray's reply to this, perhaps you have not seen it.

Not sure if Wray has much more to add to it, but I am sure she will reply to you.

Take care.

Feb 06, 2013
Joy answered
by: Anonymous

Hallo Wray - Joy in Cape Town consulted you about me - I phoned her yesterday - she supplied me with the answer. THANK YOU!

My 2 boys both had their birthdays last week - maybe its the sugar from their cakes... And all the stress and adrenaline and excitement from having to organize 2 parties in one week.

I will just carry on with the 600mg a day as usual.

All the best.


Feb 07, 2013
My period started again
by: Wray

Hi Liza-Mari I'm so delighted it's helped you, and the calming complex too. I do hope you've let Joy know. I've found that does wonders, even for little children. About 3 years ago we got an order for 3 bags, so sent it off. We learnt later the order had come from a doctor. One of her patients was a 2 year old who appeared to have ADD, she was impossible to handle. A few weeks previously the aunt of the child had bought a bag for her sister to see if it would help. Apparently after the first dose it had! I'd advised the aunt to use 1/4 of the daily dose. Even though you are using 600mg/day progesterone, which does stop bleeding, there's no knowing why the body would suddenly start up it's cycle again. If you feel stable enough to follow your cycle, then do so but watch for adverse symptoms. Otherwise continue as you are, possibly you could begin reducing it slowly from now on. These are some of the things which cause progesterone levels to drop. Please look through them and see if any could apply to you.......
lack of or drop in vitamin D.... are you taking it, or missed a dose, or spent lots of time indoors?
high oestrogen.... aromatase, which converts testosterone into oestrogen, is working over time, or SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) is low, this binds oestrogen making it inactive
high testosterone.... SHBG is low, this binds testosterone making it inactive. Sugars drop SHBG, they also drop progesterone levels
high LH.... the pituitary is working over time
high FSH.... the pituitary is working over time
high stress...... this converts most of the available progesterone into cortisol
high adrenaline (comes from stress or excitement, and a drop in blood glucose)..... this stops progesterone entering the cells
sugars of any kind.... they drop progesterone, plus dropping blood glucose, plus dropping SHBG
large meals..... because of the increased metabolic breakdown of progesterone
alcohol.... this reduces progesterone levels and increases the androgens, ie testosterone
insulin.... increase caused by eating large meals, sugars, or meals containing sugar
high level of phytoestrogens in the diet.... ie grains and legumes, soy milk, tofu etc these all act as oestrogen
oestrogenic herbs.... often given to women to help with symptoms
Thanks for the kind words. Take care Wray

Feb 08, 2013
Joy answered
by: Wray

Hi Lisa-Marie Well I'm pleased Joy told you the cause, now you know what stress can do to progesterone levels! Even if it's a celebration, please avoid sugar, the children too, it's the most oxidising thing we can eat. It causes glycation. Glycation occurs when a sugar molecule binds to a protein or lipid molecule without the control of an enzyme. This impairs the function of the molecule, leading to advanced glycation endproducts or AGEs, see here. This results in oxidative stress, see here. Which in turn leads to inflammation, see here and our page on Inflammation. Resulting in many of our inflammatory diseases, which are the end result of long term oxidative stress. As I said sugars raise testosterone levels. If bound to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) testosterone becomes inactive, progesterone raises levels of SHBG, see here, so preventing the rise of free testosterone and severe PMS. SHBG drops if sugars are eaten, even those found in all grains, legumes, processed milk and sweet starchy fruits and vegetables. Fructose, sucrose and glucose, reduce SHBG by 80, 50 and 40% respectively, see here. Thereby allowing testosterone to rise. It's best to avoid all the foods and sugars mentioned. Wine and beers contain carbs, so it's best to avoid those too. Plus alcohol affects hormone levels in women, see here and here. It decreases progesterone levels and increases androgen levels, both the total testosterone and free testosterone become higher. Testosterone is notorious at increasing visceral fat, which causes abdominal fat gain, see here and here. Continued below

Feb 08, 2013
Joy answered part 2
by: Wray

Hi Lisa-Marie The lowered progesterone, higher testosterone probably accounts for the increased risk in breast cancer risk among women, see here and here. Higher testosterone is also associated with an increased risk for Insulin Resistance and heart disease, see here. Sugars and large meals also drop progesterone levels, see here. Plus insulin drops levels too, see here. This means SHBG also drops, testosterone rises, another vicious cycle. Take care Wray

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