Many symptoms with peri-menopause

by Loraine van Vuuren
(Australia)

Hi Wray, I'm 46 and are suffering many symptoms with peri-menopause. My doctor gave me natural progesterone in a capsule form (which i read is not the best option). He started me on 50mg, then raised it to 75 then 100 and currently 125mg with melatonin. I feel that its not good to take melatonin every night even though he says its harmless.

I read some of the articles and responses of other women and decided to order my Natpro. My question is: can i just go over directly to the cream and in what amount? Do I use it every day? I had a few periods 20 days apart which lasted 10 days (first 4 days normal to heavy and the rest watery and spotty)? I haven't had a period in about 40 days now so where do i begin? Please advise.
Many thanks.

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Mar 08, 2011
...Many symptoms with peri-menopause...
by: james.woodward@rocketmail.com

Have you done a hormone test?

You should check out these sites for future reference once you get your results:

http://www.bhrtforme.com/

http://www.keratin.com/ab/ab012.shtml
(scroll 1/2 way down to see normal level ranges)

Good luck and let me know how you are doing!

Take care,
james woodward

Mar 17, 2011
Many symptoms with peri-menopause
by: Wray

Hi Loraine You are right, oral progesterone is not the best Delivery system. As you've no doubt noticed! Having to increase from 50mg to 125mg, and it appears you are still suffering from Peri-menopause symptoms. But rather than waste the caps, please prick them open and squeeze the contents on to your skin, then rub it in. It won't spread too well, so you might like to add it to a dab of gentle face cream you have to help spread it. By doing this you will be getting the full contents of the progesterone, so please be aware you might get Oestrogen Dominance. I've found if oestrogen is high, this invariably occurs. Your oestrogen does appear high if you still have many P-M symptoms. The quickest way to get over this phase is to use more progesterone, so initially you might need to use another cap. You might only need half of this one, but play around with the amount, it is trial and error before we find the amount that suits. Once the Natpro arrives, continue using it at the same amount. ie if you find one cap or 125mg progesterone sufficient, use this amount of Natpro. This would be approximately 4ml of cream. Each ml of cream contains 33.3mg progesterone. I suggest you use it daily, your cycles are now so erratic there's is no way you can follow them. I found progesterone when my cycles were still regular. But I found taking the customary break, all my symptoms came back! So I began using it daily and never looked back. It made the transition to Menopause far easier too. About the melatonin, it does help sleep in some people, but I prefer using tryptophan, the amino acid precursor to serotonin. Serotonin is the precursor to melatonin. The amino acids are building blocks of our neurotransmitters, hormones, enzymes etc, plus they are found in food. So they are much easier to dose, I'm not really in favour of end products, it is easy to overdose. And quite possibly it's not what we need. For instance tryptophan is also converted into vitamin B3, this also helps sleep. So it could be you need this, and not melatonin. There are many nutrients which help with P-M symptoms, you might like to see the list on our Anxiety page. Take care Wray

Mar 17, 2011
...Many symptoms with peri-menopause...
by: Wray

Hi James Although Loraine doesn't mention it, I feel sure her doctor would have checked her hormone levels. Doctors are far more cautious than lay people about prescribing something, even it it is natural, without doing tests. I've looked through the BHRT site you give, and see she recommends our cream, which delights me. But I'm concerned she also recommends oestrogen. I don't believe any of us need more, it's rising the world over. For more info see the excellent website Our Stolen Future. Take care Wray

Mar 17, 2011
Many symptoms with peri-menopause
by: Wray

Hi Loraine You are right, oral progesterone is not the best Delivery system. As you've no doubt noticed! Having to increase from 50mg to 125mg, and it appears you are still suffering from Peri-menopause symptoms. But rather than waste the caps, please prick them open and squeeze the contents on to your skin, then rub it in. It won't spread too well, so you might like to add it to a dab of gentle face cream you have to help spread it. By doing this you will be getting the full contents of the progesterone, so please be aware you might get Oestrogen Dominance. I've found if oestrogen is high, this invariably occurs. Your oestrogen does appear high if you still have many P-M symptoms. The quickest way to get over this phase is to use more progesterone, so initially you might need to use another cap. You might only need half of this one, but play around with the amount, it is trial and error before we find the amount that suits. Once the Natpro arrives, continue using it at the same amount. ie if you find one cap or 125mg progesterone sufficient, use this amount of Natpro. This would be approximately 4ml of cream. Each ml of cream contains 33.3mg progesterone. I suggest you use it daily, your cycles are now so erratic there's is no way you can follow them. I found progesterone when my cycles were still regular. But I found taking the customary break, all my symptoms came back! So I began using it daily and never looked back. It made the transition to Menopause far easier too. About the melatonin, it does help sleep in some people, but I prefer using tryptophan, the amino acid precursor to serotonin. Serotonin is the precursor to melatonin. The amino acids are building blocks of our neurotransmitters, hormones, enzymes etc, plus they are found in food. So they are much easier to dose, I'm not really in favour of end products, it is easy to overdose. And quite possibly it's not what we need. For instance tryptophan is also converted into vitamin B3, this also helps sleep. So it could be you need this, and not melatonin. There are many nutrients which help with P-M symptoms, you might like to see the list on our Anxiety page. Take care Wray

Mar 28, 2011
Thanks James
by: Loraine van Vuuren

Thanks for your comment and info James, I appreciate! I haven't done a hormone test lately but plan to have a saliva test done soon. It is just difficult because at the moment I am having a period for almost the whole of March, was supposed to go on the 27th for the test but the period is making it difficult to get the right date.
Will keep in touch...
Regards
Loraine

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