by Jill
(Alexandria, MN)

Hello everyone! Very happy to have found this site. Have been lurking for a week or two and am very blessed to have found this place.

A little background: I am 44 yrs old and have been in perimenopause for a couple of yrs at least. Last year I figured I might be headed for complete menopause sooner rather then later-- I only had either 5 or 6 menstrual cycles. All pretty much light- though a couple were heavier. (I've almost always had heavy periods)

I felt wonderful really on the months I didn't have a cycle. Wasn't bothered at all by it once I realized I wasn't pregnant. haha I don't have any children and sure don't want to start now.

Then this year- all of a sudden, I'm having heavier periods one month and lighter ones other months. The problem has been how I feel right before and during my period.

It left me with horrible feelings of being unbalanced and confused. I would walk around feeling like I was about to pass out and that everything was tipping. It feels a lot like anxiety (used to suffer from very bad anxiety) but its not like 'real' anxiety. I don't know how to explain that better except to say that I call it hormonal anxiety. (I already know that there are substances that can trigger what feels like bad anxiety and I avoid them... but I couldn't avoid my own hormones!)

It would feel like I was about to have panic attacks. (used to be very agoraphobic- hardly able to leave my home except to go to work-- I'm stubborn so I kept going there! haha)

So I had read Dr Lees book and also Christine Northrup and decided to try progesterone cream. I chose Emerita Pro-gest as both recommended that one.

Being sensitive to so many things-- I usually have to ease into products (even supplements) in order to avoid adverse reactions. Well, as you all know- you can't do that with progesterone! So I put just a little bit on in morning and evening. Uck-- I felt horrible. The same feelings as when I have hormonal anxiety!

I did know that it can take time for the cream to work- but didn't know how I was going to stick it out for 2 to 3 months. So I said a heartfelt prayer that if this is the right course for me to take-- to lead me in the right direction or to give me a sign. And lo and behold, I ended up here!

I sucked up my fear of using more of the product. It goes against everything I know for tolerating a substance. But am so happy I took that leap!

I've only been on the cream for about 2 weeks. As it is-- I've upped my dose to 480 mgs a day. Its helped immensely though I know it will be awhile before I am where I want to be. And yesterday, I found I needed to apply some more during the day twice so am adjusting as needed.

The info on this site has been a godsend! I know that Wray is taking a much-needed break right now-- but I just want to send a big Thank You to her as well as to the other ladies who provide such well appreciated information.

Wray- I don't know if you will see this- but you have given so much hope and help to women who are suffering greatly. I know that you have put a lot of time and effort into helping as many as you can personally and I appreciate your efforts and dedication. I know that you have decided to focus more on those taking Natpro as you are getting burned out.

I want to say that it really has impressed me that you have had such a willingness to help all the women who came here no matter what brand they were using. To me, that shows someone who is really dedicated to helping each woman no matter what the situation.

But I also know how easy it would be to approach burnout so I really respect your decision to focus on those using Natpro.

As it is-- I have ordered Natpro and will be switching from Emerita to Natpro. Pro-gest has been working well for me- -but I like the idea that I will be able to use less cream to get the same results and there is more progesterone in Natpro.

Once again- thank you for such a wonderful site and for so much information!

Sorry so long!


ok- sorry so long. Am very happy to have found this place!!


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Jan 01, 2014
Am coming along
by: Jill

Still plugging away at 480 mgs. Though yesterday I needed an extra boost at work. Put in on during my break and felt SO much better for the rest of my shift.

I work in a library-- you would think a library would be a relaxing and quiet place to work-and sometimes it is-- but most of the time- it is very busy and the last two days have been insane!

I would love to increase my dosage a little bit more each day- but am concerned about the cost. I appreciate the efforts to keep costs as reasonable as possible here and I think you've done a bang-up job with that-- but it does add up at higher doses. Truthfully, we really can't afford it-- but we are going to do what we can to make it work because I can't go on feeling how I was.

I still get some headaches with the dose I'm on-- but they aren't as bad as they were on a lower dose. So mostly are manageable. I still have to sometimes fight against my instincts that a higher dose is a bad idea when there are adverse reactions-- but intellectually I know that its not the same as other supplements or medications.

I also still get some of the hormonal anxiety-- but I think it depends on where I am in my cycle. I do plan on taking progesterone everyday for at least 3 months. My cycles haven't been very predictable anyways for a while.

I have one question: I will be switching to Natpro very soon as I finish up the Pro-gest. Is there ever any concerns when switching from one brand to another? Or if I have only a partial dose left of the Pro-gest to finish it up-- can I add Natpro to it to make it the dose I need?

Once again-- thanks for all of the great info on here. I have requested a couple of Dr Daltons books in our library system to read. I'm really looking forward to what she has to say. We don't have her books in our library-- but we have a system set up so I can request books from other libraries in outstate Minnesota. I can't wait to get them. :)


Jan 01, 2014
Well Put!
by: Jennifer

Just wanted to agree with Jill and say how much I've appreciated all of the work that Wray and the others clearly put in to help people who are suffering. I've never seen a site with so much information and back up research. It's so refreshing. I've visited this site more than any I've ever before - and don't plan to stop any time soon! Thank you so much!

Jan 02, 2014
by: Laura

Hi Jill,
Loved reading your post as that was me 7 months ago. But i can now tell you that i am feeling fantastic and am nearly back to normal. You can read my story ' hoping i have finally found the answer'. It was a struggle, which i am now winning!!! and it is all thanks to Wray and all the fantastic ladies on this site. I apply 500mg Natpro daily through any bleeding and it has taken 6+ months to feel better. I think i am nearly at the stage where i can start to reduce my amount and follow my cycle. All i can suggest is stick to your amount but get your vit D levels checked and take a good dose as you will find that will help the pro cream. Pro cream won't work if you have low levels of vit D. I found my pro cream really started to kick in when i got my vit D levels high, i take 10000 vit d a day and 500mg magnesium as well as my Natpro. Switch creams as normal just make sure you get the dosage right as you will need less Natpro cream than your other cream as it has a higher strength, but both could be used together at the correct amount. Hope this helps you, wishing you well on your journey to feeling better. Take Care Laura

Jan 03, 2014
Thank You
by: Joy

Hi Jill

Many thanks for your kinds words about Wray and her website, I know would appreciate them immensely.

Strange that you should mention Christine Northrup, it is because of her book which lead me on my path to progesterone and after trying a few different progesterone creams which did not work for me, I found Wray's website and switched to Natpro and I have never looked back. I have been using it every single day now for about 9 years, I could not live without it!!

I see that you have posted an update, so I will answer both as best I can here.

You are very clearly in the peri-menopause stage hence all your symptoms. It is a difficult time for most women. Usually a missed period for 12 months would indicate menopause in most women. The reason why you felt so 'uck' is because the cream you were using did not contain the correct amount of progesterone concentration which resulted in estrogen dominance symptoms. Weight gain/water retention, aches, pains and in your case the the 'uck' feeling is because not enough progesterone is being used which in turn, stimulates estrogen. Progesterone HAS to become the dominant hormone before things improve. Normally 2 - 6 months would be a good guide as to when to expect positive change however, depending on how severe symptoms are, it could take longer. You have proved to yourself that by upping the amount of cream used improved your symptoms, so people really have to experiment the the amount of cream to find a level that suits them and their symptoms.

Continued ....

Jan 03, 2014
Thank You continued
by: Joy

Hi Jill

Please read Wray's page on Anxiety it will help you to understand. Please have a Vitamin D test done it is vital for good health and most of us are terribly deficient, a deficiency also reduces the benefits of progesterone - see here andhere.

You will certainly be able to use less cream when your Natpro arrives which will help your budget. You are still getting headaches because you are still estrogen dominant, as soon as progesterone becomes the dominant hormone they will disappear, but please I stress again, get your vitamin D level up!

I personally have not heard of any problems when switching from one brand to Natpro and I don't seem to recall Wray mentioning it either. I suggest that when your Natpro arrives to try 300mg per day and see how you go on that. You might find that once progesterone has become the dominant hormone and you feel stable enough, you can reduce SLOWLY to 200mg, just experiment with it as you did with ProGest. Finish your ProGest and if you need to, supplement with Natpro, there is no need to waste anything.

I hate to burst your bubble here, but from now on your will have to use progesterone every single day as I do, otherwise all your symptoms will return and besides, I doubt very much if your periods will ever become regular again, this is what happens in peri-menopause. I will never stop using it!

I hope this has helped you Jill.

Take care.

Jan 03, 2014
Well put
by: Joy

Hi Jennifer

Many thanks for your kind words, Wray will certainly appreciate them.

She has dedicated so much of her time over the years on this site and helping others. Her knowledge of progesterone and her research astounds me. She was fortunate enough to meet the late Dr Kittie Dalton who past on such valuable information. She has also attended a few of Dr John Lee's seminars.

Take care.

Jan 03, 2014
Thanks all!!
by: Jill

Thank you to Jennifer for adding your bit-- I agree, I'm just soaking up as much information as I can from this site!

Thank you Laura for your encouraging words. I think thats whats so wonderful to hear-- the people who have had so much success using the cream. So many more people would have more success if they would just try the suggestions here. I find myself very frustrated on some posts when women speak of the problems they are having-- but still- not matter how much they are told- don't seem to want to at least try the suggestions.

I guess I can understand that people are scared and nervous and that its hard when you hear one thing here and your Doctor may be telling you something different.

Thank you Joy for your great suggestions! I will definitely check out the page on Anxiety. I've been trying to learn as much as I can here. Will get a Vit D test as soon as possible. I have been supplementing magnesium and Vitamin D for some time but may need to up it.

I will go back and re-read your post as well-- probably several times- lol- just to really get the most out of it. (sometimes i read too fast and miss things.. so its best for me to re-read.. :) )

Have been using Natpro. Love how it is absorbed-so much better! And I feel I am just getting a much better value. I also love the consistencey of it.

Will write more another time. (say- how can i tell if my comment is 3000 characters or less?-- sorry, just not sure!)


Jan 05, 2014
by: Jill

I do have a question I would like to ask.

I've read quite a bit on the site (what a wealth of information! Greatly appreciated.) But one thing I'm not sure of.

On some topics- people suffering from oestrogen dominance when on low doses are told they need to increase the dose significantly to overcome the dominance. Seems straight forward enough.

But then on other topics-- women who have been using the cream without a problem who increase the dose and then have oestrogen dominance symptoms, are told that its because they increased the cream and not because they are using too much.

So its oestrogen dominance when the dose is low and when its high? I guess I'm a bit confused by that. Seems contridictory to me.

Its seems to me then that what is being said is that that either way you can have oestrogen dominance.

Please Explain! I don't understand!

BUt still- an amazing and wonderful site. Im so grateful that I have found it. ANd what a great group of ladies as well. Thank you for your time and attention.

I'm disappointed that I don't get to hear from Wray-- but am very happy that she is taking a break for her own sanity. Sometimes a person needs to step back and care for themself for awhile.

Hope she is getting a lot of relaxation and rest in. I wish her the best and look forward to seeing her again here in the future. Shes been a blessing to women all over. :)

Jan 05, 2014
Never mind!
by: Jill

Ok. I have answered my own question by reading more and now understand that oestrogen dominance can come out of the blue on a higher dose for many reasons like a large meal, stress, vitamin d levels...etc...to name a few. Theres nothing contridictory about it! I must admit I am a bit nervous about how long it will take to really get relief. It can be so hard sometimes . But at least theres now hope where there wasnt before. Very thankful for that. :)

Jan 06, 2014
Question/Never Mind
by: Joy

Hi Jill

Yes I agree with you when you say that you understand the confusion when you read something here and your doctor tells you something else. Personally what the doctors told me was a total bugger up, nothing they advised made sense or worked for me. I made the choice to go the natural progesterone route because of this and I have never looked back. At the end of the day it really is up to the individual to make up their own minds which route to take, Wray and others merely advice what has worked for them. Wray of course, always has her back up research papers.

It really is a good idea to get your Vitamin D test done, you can then act accordingly. Trust me I have had to read information that Wray has given me many, many times before it sank it, so you are not alone lol. Natpro really is the best cream on the market, it is well absorbed and I love it as a moistoriser, even hair follicles absorb it well!

To answer your 3000 character max, the site will tell you when you have exceeded the limit. When this happens to me, I just take a rough guess and copy the last half of my post, I then post the first half and post the section that you copied and post that again. I will probably have to do this now.

Regarding your estrogen dominance question. It is impossible to avoid being estrogen dominant today with over 100 estrogen mimics in our environment, please read Our Stolen Future. Because of this we need to continue with progesterone in order to keep it the dominant hormone. I give myself a progesterone boost at the end of every month by rubbing my entire body with Natpro. Also stress destroys both progesterone and vitamin D, so when stressed both of these need to be increased during the stressful period. So those women who have been using progesterone for sometime and decide to increase and experience estrogen dominance symptoms is because estrogen has been allowed to become the dominant hormone again.

Sometime back, Wray decided to give herself a good boost and she suffered terrible ED symptoms. Now here we have a person who knows everything there is to know about progesterone and still experienced ED.

As you correctly mentioned ED can happen at any time which means progesterone levels have dropped. Here is a list of things which cause progesterone levels to drop thereby allowing estrogen to become dominant again..

Lack of or drop in vitamin D * high oestrogen *
high testosterone * high LH * high FSH * high stress * sugars of any kind * large meals * alcohol * insulin * high level of phytoestrogens in the diet.

How long will it take, now this depends on how severe symptoms are and if progesterone is used correctly and vitamin D.

As for Wray not responding, as the noticed states, after 17 year of 16 hour days, it's time Wray took a well deserved break.

Take care.

Jan 06, 2014
Thank you Joy
by: Jill

Thank you Joy so much for the information and for your time and attention! I really appreciate it. :) I am aware that Wray is taking a much needed rest. I mentioned that a couple of times in my posts. I'm very happy she is. I certainly know how important it is to take care of ones self when needed. She has definitely earned it! :)

Jan 12, 2014
by: Jill

Well, Had a bit of a rough week this past week but made it through. Felt very bad everyday with Thursday being the worst! I was very discouraged that day.

Fortunately, Friday went better. Not optimal- but I felt a lot better and it was more manageable. Its not easy helping people when you don't feel good.

Been stressed because my 18 yr old cat isn't doing well and may have to make a decision. Its not easy-- she is my baby!

This weekend wasn't fun because I ended up with really heavy flow-- flooding and clots. Lots of them! It was almost as bad as when I came off of the pill after 7 yrs on it. Fortunately, last night was better so hopefully its slowing down now.

My question is how does progesterone ever become dominate over estrogen? If progesterone drops after 12 or 13 hours and it also drops during stress, or after a big meal or...etc...et..... And that progesterone doesn't build up in the body...

Then how does it EVER become dominate?! Its especially hard with all the xenoestrogens we are exposed to. They are an every day fact of life.

I'm going to work on limiting xenoestrogens in my life- but don't think it is possible to limit all. Its a very daunting task.

Just something I've been wondering about! Thanks for the support and encouragement here. It really helps!


Jan 19, 2014
by: Jill

Seriously, I am curious how Progesterone ever builds up in the body. Seems like if you sneeze or look at it funny the levels drop significantly. (ok- I exaggerate, but not by much lol)

But actually I have a more important issue right now. I've had my period now since New years Eve. And much of it has been VERY heavy with clots, flooding and heavy flow.

This is going on way too long and can't be good for me. I know its probably a sign of estrogen dominance-- but it needs to stop. I picked up some NAC and Taurine and tried both last night. I didn't want to start out at the high doses recommended so only did part. It seemed ok at 1200 mgs for the NAC--so I took a third capsule after awhile. (I REALLY want this bleeding to stop!)

Not long after-- I felt really anxious and unbalanced. Sort of confused with a fuzzy head. Just moving my head made me feel like I would fall over. I barely made it down to bed and now feel better this morning. Has anyone else had a reaction like this? I think I did find it somewhere that someone else had trouble taking it.

Many years ago- I decided I didn't want to take anymore synthetic hormones in the form on Birth Control Pills-- when I came off of them-- I had the same kind of bleeding. The only think that helped me was Vitex (chasteberry tree with a little dong quai in it) I know its not encouraged here-- but it literally began working immediately for me.

I am so close to trying it again.

cont below...

Jan 19, 2014
- continued...
by: Jill

In case you're wondering how much Natpro I'm using every day- its in the 480 to 600 mg range. Not sure exactly. I do measured doses in the morn and evening-- but during the day will just put some on-- no idea how much. And Even my measured doses I tend to over fill a bit!

So my progesterone use is pretty good..

Also- I don't understand why the oestrogen dominance is so bad. Before I took the cream- I did have symptoms-- yes. But they only came right before and during my period. After using the cream- its bad every day. Well- some days are better then others-- but really, this extreme a reaction to something that was only a bother part of the month before?!

At least before-- I felt good for most of the month..

And yes, I do understand that progesterone activates oestrogen receptors and that we get lots of xenohormones from all around us-- so causing oestrogen dominance-- but still- its discouraging to get so much worse. And I can't really afford to go higher on the cream.

Please know that I'm not knocking the cream. I still think its the best course for me to take and in the long run will be good.

I appreciate all the wonderful info and help here. Its a great site! I really do believe that progesterone is going to be good for me and I have seen some positive signs-- its just that I'm tired of the heavy bleeding and clots.

Thanks again for all the help and support here. This sight really is a godsend.


Jan 20, 2014
by: Laura

Hi Jill,
you poor thing, didn't realise you had been bleeding for so long. I haven't had this problem but have read and am sure RJ had very bad continuous bleeding, try posting to her and I'm sure she will help and advise you and Joy I'm sure will be along to advise too!!!!!
I found that in the hard early weeks/months you have to be very accurate with your measurements of natpro as you are stimulating E..... What I do is measure the cream in kitchen spoons 5 ml and I apply this 3 times a day which gives me 500mg a day, but I level it off by using a knife... This way I know it is the same every time, and if I am out for the day I have a little round lip balm pot that I put my measured amount in. this has worked well for me as I too at the beginning was applying different amounts daily and was really feeling awful!!!!
Hope this helps you.

Jan 20, 2014
Good Advice.
by: Jill

Think I will try your system of 3 doses at 5 ml. Or maybe more. I think I might still get a headache with that amount. I've been putting on about 7.5 ml in morn and night and putting on some if needed during the day.

The bleeding is crazy. I need it to stop. I haven't bled this bad since I came off of birth control pills several years ago. In fact- in 2012, I hardly bled at all. I thought for sure menopause was almost here!

I did just notice something that I didn't notice before- the NAC I have also has a bit of selenium in it and molybdenum. Maybe one of those is my problem with it.

The taurine I seem to be tolerating well so far- but from what I've read- you do need to be careful with it.

I want to start up my exercises again--used to do it 4 to 5 times a week. Did that for over 3 yrs. Got away from it though and will not do them while my flow is so heavy. I will be gushing all over the place! yuck!

Jan 21, 2014
by: Joy

Hi Jill

You are using a good amount of progesterone and it can make one feel strange when first using it. We are all different and therefore react differently, some react to it and some do not. Depending on how severe symptoms are, it can take anything from 2 to 6 months before any signs of improvement are felt. I know some women who after 12 months are only feeling the benefit. It is not an overnight fix, you have to be patience and experiment with the dose to suit you.

Unfortunately you will not get rid of your heavy bleeding/clotting unless to follow the FULL heavy bleeding protocol which is ...

* Natpro - 400mg to 500mg/per day
* N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) - 2000mg/per day
* Taurine - 2000mg/per day
* Vitamin D - 5000iu's/per day more if vitamin D level is low
* Bioflavanoids - 1000mg/per day

You would be wasting you time using anything less. Please take the above on a full stomach as it could make you feel ill otherwise.

Please remember that stress destroys both progesterone and vitamin D, when stressed more of both needs to be taken or used. If these drop, your estrogen level will rise again as it has been allowed to become the dominant hormone.

I realise that you are not knocking the cream but I do understand how you are feeling right now. It does work provided you follow the protocol exactly as stated.

I recently put two ladies on the heavy bleeding protocol and both were delighted within two months of using it.

Take care.

Jan 21, 2014
by: Joy

Hi Laura

Thanks so much for your help with this and helping to guide Jill. As you know yourself, it is not an overnight fix.

Take care.

Jan 25, 2014
Thank you
by: Jill

Thank you again for taking the time to comment Joy. I really do appreciate it!

Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck raising the amount of both Taurine and NAC to 2000 mgs. Maybe if I try a different NAC-- possibly the powdered kind- I would be able to do it more easily.

I just don't feel good when I try raising the amounts of either of them. I haven't taken any for a couple of days now and feel a lot better. (except for the bleeding!)

I am trying some other natural alternatives in controlling bleeding and will let you know how that goes. None are over night fixes either. So far, I am tolerating them very well with no side effects. Am trying Apple Cider Vinegar and Black Strap molasses. The molasses is high in iron too so that is good with heavy bleeding.

I have noticed a decrease in the amount and size of clots and sometimes will go many hours without any clotting. Also have noticed times when bleeding slows down- so am cautiously hopeful.

I really do appreciate all the info and the people here! It really is a great site. Jill

Feb 02, 2014
by: Jill

Thought it was time for an update! So far, my alternative methods to slow and stop the bleeding have been working very well. Today, I hardly bled at all. At first the clots reduced significantly and then the flooding stopped. Then I had moments when the bleeding slowed down. It would pick up again and then slow down again.

The slower times got longer and now it's almost completely stopped. I don't know if it will pick up again but it's looking pretty good and I am cautiously optimistic.

My method has been a combo of Apple cider vinegar, unsulphered Blackstrap molasses both organic and Dim- plus. It's 3 Tbs of each a day. I put the a.c.v. in pineapple juice and sip through a straw.I take 1 to 2 dim a day. I also drink a hot lemon drink every morning as lemon may help. Pineapple too.

I am very pleased with the results so far. Fingers crossed that it keeps working! I wasn't able to do the protocol for heavy bleeding that's recommended here so this is it for me.

I am also feeling better in general. This past week was the best I've had in a while. Not perfect and one day was bad but mostly much better.

Very encouraging!

Take care. Jill

Feb 02, 2014
forgot to add..
by: Jill

I forgot to add to my last post that I also started taking Cod Liver Oil every day as well. Many times when women who bleed to much have a deficiency in Vitamin A. And CLO has a good amount in it.

I didn't even get the really good C.L.O. Just some stuff I got from Walgreens. I think its supposed to be a better quality and also a certain type of vitamin A. But I decided to give it a try anyways.

So I started taking a 1/2 TBs daily. I try not to breath after taking it and before swallowing something else so I don't taste the fish part of it. uck. Fortunately- even if I do taste it-- it doesn't linger!

Feb 06, 2014
Forgot to add
by: Joy

Hi Jill

Thanks for the updates and good luck with the apple cider vinegar and blackstrap molasses. I really do not know too much about blackstrap molasses, some say it helps whilst others say not. do be careful with sweet things though, too many carbs is not good either.

Please do not take cod liver oil, or any fish liver oil. The excessive vitamin A it contains prevents vitamin D from being absorbed. Take beta-carotene if you are deficient. Remember that too much vitamin A can become toxic - see here and here.

Feb 08, 2014
by: Jill

Thanks for the info on Cod Liver Oil. I only took it for less then 2 weeks. I made sure I didn't take excessive amounts. Is that why they put Vitamin D in CLO- because Vitamin A affects its absorption? You are right that beta carotene is the best source.

I've cut the Apple Cider Vinegar and Blackstrap molasses down to 1 TBS a day now. First I went down to 2- now its 1. I am on Day 5 of no bleeding-- so something I did obviously worked. It took a little over a week to work-- but it would get better bit by bit until it finally stopped.

Will probably continue to take ACV but not the Molasses unless I am bleeding. Its a very good source of iron and potassium. Hmmm... will see about that. As both ACV and progesterone work as diuretics- potassium may be leached from the body as well. So maybe a TBS a day is a good thing!

Feb 14, 2014
by: Joy

Hi Jill

Yes I would imagine that is why they add it, but are they getting the amounts correct? It's best not to take it at all.

I really am interested in the Apple Cider Vinegar and Blackstrap Molasses, so please keep me posted on that.


Mar 09, 2014
by: Jill

Its been awhile so I thought I would post an update. I haven't bled now for over a month! I am getting some mild signs that a period is coming- but its much better then it used to be. I would usually be miserable for several days before it and during it.

I'm so thankful that the bleeding stopped. During Feb. I just kept feeling better and better every week. Its the best month I've had in a very long time.

I continue to take 1 TBS or Apple Cider Vinegar a day but won't take the Blackstrap molasses until I bleed again. At least that's the plan for now. I believe that ACV has a lot of health benefits to it. I add it to a little bit of juice and sip through a straw so its not getting on my teeth every day.

The Cod liver oil I only took for 2 weeks and haven't had since.

I did add some Vitamin E supplementation based on info in one of DR Katharina Daltons books as to how it can help PMS symptoms like dizziness and anxiety. I take one capsule a day-- can't remember off the top of my head how much. It was in the mid to lower range of what she recommended.

I've also stared excercising again. Just 3 days a week now-- but will start increasing that soon.

A Question: If I was just browsing the forum looking at topic titles- where would I find my story? This particular thread of mine that tells about my experiences? Because the only way I've ever found it is by typing my name in the search. How does anyone ever see it if theres no way to find it if they don't know me? Just curious. I would love other peoples responses as well as maybe I will be of some encouragement to others.

Thanks! :)

Apr 02, 2014
by: Joy

Hi Jill

What fabulous news, and I commend you for actually finding something that works for you, well done! Encouraging others would be most welcome too.

I sometimes find it difficult to find threads myself, I find most of them via the Google Search tab or the FAQ on the right hand column. However, you will not get all the posts there either.

Take care.

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