Irregular Period

by Diane
(Chicago)

My daughter is 23. Three years ago, before her 1st pregnancy she was on birth control & after pregnancy she has aches & pains all over, migraine headaches regularly, cold feet, hair falling out, joints pop all the time & regularly pop out & lock in place. She has foggy thinking, poor memory, irritability, panics in crowds, muscle weakness and at certain times is uncoordinated (always dropping things). These are only a few of her symptoms.

(However, I just started using my cream & neither of us can remember the other symptoms, eeek!!)

At present she's been PMSing for almost two weeks and still no period.

I recently bought her progesterone cream. However, her periods have always been so irregular, even as a teenager (which makes me believe she's been low in progesterone for a long time) that we do not know when she should begin using the cream or how much to use.

Please help me to help my daughter!! Thanks so much, Wray.

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Mar 16, 2011
Irregular Period
by: Wray

Hi Diane I believe you are right, that she has been short of progesterone since puberty. It can take months, if not a year or two for ovulation to begin after menses start. Which of course means high levels of oestrogen, and low levels of progesterone. It seems to me she's got post natal depression, the timing fits, the symptoms too. Progesterone drops sharply after giving birth, affecting up to 25% of women. From the mild baby blues which last a few days, to post natal depression which can last years, to post natal psychosis, it's most devastating form. I had PND, it lasted four years as I had no idea of progesterone then, so I can relate to her symptoms as I had many of them. The muscle weakness was very bad. I remember times when I was so weak I couldn't pick up my tiny daughter. Interestingly I had this too during peri-menopause, and subsequently found a study where progesterone was used very successfully to reverse it. Unfortunately the paper comes with no abstract, see here. So I bought the full paper, but legally I can't display it here. Agoraphobia is benefited by progesterone too, I also had that! Oestrogen is a known initiator of inflammation, with her low progesterone levels it doesn't surprise me she has aches and pains. This also applies to the migraines, see here, here, here, here and here. As she has so many adverse symptoms, plus an erratic cycle, I suggest she uses progesterone daily for 2-3 months. Her periods will come and go in an irregular pattern, but I find it far better to get rid of symptoms first, before following a cycle. We have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. I do recommend 100-200mg/day, she will have to experiment with the amount to find the one which suits. But as her oestrogen appears to be high, please ask her to read the page we have on Oestrogen Dominance first. I've found the higher the oestrogen present, the worse this effect is. But if a high enough amount of progesterone is used, the quicker and milder this is. Take care Wray

Mar 16, 2011
Irregular Period
by: Wray

Hi Diane I believe you are right, that she has been short of progesterone since puberty. It can take months, if not a year or two for ovulation to begin after menses start. Which of course means high levels of oestrogen, and low levels of progesterone. It seems to me she's got post natal depression, the timing fits, the symptoms too. Progesterone drops sharply after giving birth, affecting up to 25% of women. From the mild baby blues which last a few days, to post natal depression which can last years, to post natal psychosis, it's most devastating form. I had PND, it lasted four years as I had no idea of progesterone then, so I can relate to her symptoms as I had many of them. The muscle weakness was very bad. I remember times when I was so weak I couldn't pick up my tiny daughter. Interestingly I had this too during peri-menopause, and subsequently found a study where progesterone was used very successfully to reverse it. Unfortunately the paper comes with no abstract, see here. So I bought the full paper, but legally I can't display it here. Agoraphobia is benefited by progesterone too, I also had that! Oestrogen is a known initiator of inflammation, with her low progesterone levels it doesn't surprise me she has aches and pains. This also applies to the migraines, see here, here, here, here and here. As she has so many adverse symptoms, plus an erratic cycle, I suggest she uses progesterone daily for 2-3 months. Her periods will come and go in an irregular pattern, but I find it far better to get rid of symptoms first, before following a cycle. We have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. I do recommend 100-200mg/day, she will have to experiment with the amount to find the one which suits. But as her oestrogen appears to be high, please ask her to read the page we have on Oestrogen Dominance first. I've found the higher the oestrogen present, the worse this effect is. But if a high enough amount of progesterone is used, the quicker and milder this is. Take care Wray

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