Don't know which way to turn

by Nellie
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I am 44 years old. I have had a large fibroid removed by surgery 8 years ago. I now have an 8cm fibroid with poor vascularisation and an oedema inside I also have other fibroids only two of which are being counted at the moment as they are around 2.5cm in diameter I have recently been diagnosed with chronic anemia (red cells 6.7) � though am on iron supplement oral - and have had a couple of intravenous packs.

I am currently in France, where they would like to whip out my uterus. I have not had children, and was hoping to try for one in the next year before it really is too late.

I have been prescribed progesterone to help diminish the bleeding while I get my head round having a hysterectomy.

Is there any chance I could reduce the fibroid, and keep the others at bay and get pregnant?

Do you have any thoughts on this? If so I would appreciate them. Needless to say I am devastated about my situation, and after crying a lot, I have started the inevitable trawl through the web to see if there are any alternatives or answers out there.

I notice one or two firms in the USA offering enzymes etc to reduce oestrogen levels and thereby shrink the tumours. Is this all pie in the sky � and seeing as my largest fibroid has an oedema, would this rule me out of trying to shrink it?

Many thanks in advance for your help.

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Aug 31, 2007

Fibroids
by: Wray

Dear Nellie, We've had considerable success in reducing fibroids using progesterone. So before you opt for the hysterectomy, use the progesterone. But I do need to know what progesterone you have been prescribed, as there is much confusion between the synthetic and the natural.

From my experience, progesterone is also the most effective way of reducing oestrogen levels. The length of time for the fibroid to be re-absorbed will be dependant on the size of the fibroid. We've also had success in helping women fall pregnant using the cream.

Reflexology is another wonderful way of stimulating ovulation too. If you would send a message using the 'Contact' link at the foot of this page I can send you info showing how to conceive and maintain the pregnancy using progesterone. Take care Wray

Sep 09, 2007

Just an opinion on fibroids
by: Anonymous

I am 48 years old and have three fibroids of 2.5cm and greater. I also have a cyst on the ovary. Two doctors told me that I had NO choice but to have a hysterectomy, which I do not and will not agree to.

I had a DNC and biopsies and there was no sign of cancer. I've had no luck shrinking my tumors and cannot advise as far as pregnancy is concerned but I have been on Norethindrone for quite a long time. The Norethindrone controls the pain and bleeding and I've been up and down on my dosage. It seems I'm finally getting menopausal symptoms (bleed aside since I don't have any with the pills).

This is a relief but I can tell you there's no hurry in finding out as long as there isn't a reason to believe you have cancer. Not sure if that helps but I hope so.

Sep 12, 2007

Fibroids and cysts
by: Wray

I'm glad you've agreed not to have the hysterectomy, it is not necessary. Norethindrone is a progestin, a synthetic progesterone with many potential adverse side affects, please visit Medline.

The ovarian cyst is obviously not responding to it and the fibroids too it seems. We've found that progesterone shrinks both fibroids and cysts until they disappear. Cysts generally take one to three months and the fibroids can take up to a year to go. As progesterone is an anti-inflammatory it also helps with pain. Hope this helps! Wray

Sep 30, 2007

I Hope This Helps
by: Anonymous

Hi,

I just wondered if you had done anything natural or even considered doing anything with natural therapies?

Your operation is not going anywhere. It's been offered to you and it will keep being offered. But you still have time to do something about it before it gets worse. You know that even if you do have a hysterectomy, this still doesn't mean that you won't be at risk from growing more fibroids in the future. You need to find out more. The natural way in some cases may take longer. But more often than not, patients do get results.I sometimes wonder if doctors know how to do anything else but offer surgery.

Your iron levels also need the support of Vitamin B12 for maximum absorption. You need to take this vitamin half an hour to an hour before bed. Also, if you do want to try taking natural iron, 'Spatone' is water that is high in iron and can help to replace the levels within one month. Stay away from coffee as it is greatest thief off all vitamins especially iron. Chicory is a good replacement.

Fibroids feed off oestrogen and fat cells and fat cells help oestrogen to produce itself. Yes, progesterone does help to manufacture other hormones but when oestrogen is concerned, progesterone is not the only thing needed.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to minimize or completely cut out milk and dairy products. Dairy products are rich in hormones especially oestrogen.

Fibroids can sometimes be the cause of a yeast overgrowth. If you have fungal infections that keep coming back, then a yeast free diet may be the answer to rebuild your immune system and help the body to fight back. A good book on this is Beat Candida by Erica White.

U O Clear from www.herbalremedies.com. Eating wild yam can help to rebruild progesterone levels (don't take this if you have a yeast overgrowth). Black Cohosh, cinnammon, dan shen, green tea and reishi (reishi is a mushroom - don't take if you have a yeast overgrowth). Go for the best quality that you can find from all of these. If you choose to cook them up, then I would suggest you call Baldwins 020 7703 5550. They're great.

Gotu-Kola (Hydrocyte), helps the body to get rid of toxins, minimze fats, helps relieve edema, it provides energy and calms, make sure you take it on an empty stomach . Not around food as it can interfere with the cholesterol from the bile in digestion.

All the best. Bobby.

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Sep 30, 2007
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Hi, I just wondered if you had done anything natural or even considered doing anything with natural therapies? Your operation is not going anywhere. It's been offered to you and it will keep being offered. But you still have time to do something about it before it gets worse. You know that even if you do have a hysterectomy, this still doesn't mean that you won't be at risk from growing more fibroids in the future. You need to find out more. The natural way in some cases may take longer. But more often than not, patients do get results.I sometimes wonder if doctors know how to do anything else but offer surgery. Your iron levels also need the support of Vitamin B12 for maximum absorption. You need to take this vitamin half an hour to an hour before bed. Also, if you do want to try taking natural iron, 'Spatone' is water that is high in iron and can help to replace the levels within one month. Stay away from coffee as it is greatest thief off all vitamins especially iron. Chicory is a good replacement. Fibroids feed off oestrogen and fat cells and fat cells help oestrogen to produce itself. Yes, progesterone does help to manufacture other hormones but when oestrogen is concerned, progesterone is not the only thing needed. Perhaps it would be a good idea to minimize or completely cut out milk and dairy products. Dairy products are rich in hormones especially oestrogen. Fibroids can sometimes be the cause of a yeast overgrowth. If you have fungal infections that keep coming back, then a yeast free diet may be the answer to rebuild your immune system and help the body to fight back. A good book on this is Beat Candida by Erica White. U O Clear from www.herbalremedies.com. Eating wild yam can help to rebruild progesterone levels (don't take this if you have a yeast overgrowth). Black Cohosh, cinnammon, dan shen, green tea and reishi (reishi is a mushroom - don't take if you have a yeast overgrowth). Go for the best quality that you can find from all of these. If you choose to cook them up, then I would suggest you call Baldwins 020 7703 5550. They're great. Gotu-Kola (Hydrocyte), helps the body to get rid of toxins, minimze fats, helps relieve edema, it provides energy and calms, make sure you take it on an empty stomach . Not around food as it can interfere with the cholesterol from the bile in digestion. All the best. Bobby.

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Sep 30, 2007

More help
by: Anonymous

I just wrote to you and I thought I'd write to you again. I did write something earlier and had planned to correct what I'd said but I forgot to re-read it.

Having a hysterectomy can help to get rid of the problem but it also stops you from having a baby. But even if you have a hysterectomy, this doesn't mean that you won't have other complications of possibly the same nature in the future. That's why its useful to find out the cause of it and treat it properly.

You said that you had surgery a few years ago. I don't know if this was a myomectomy. It is an alternative to a hysterectomy. This doesn't mean that you may not get fibroids in the future but it may just give you more time to do something about it or go and start a family. Good Luck. I'd also like to recommend a very good herbalist, even if he's too far I'm sure he'll still be willing to help you over the phone. Stuart Fitzsimmons - he's in Wales. 029 2041 7803

Sep 30, 2007

Thank you
by: nellie

I'm sorry I don't know the correct space to thank everyone who has written in with advice regarding my problems - thank you, thank you thank you - hopefully when I get through the other side with a non hysterectomy conclusion I will have the route mapped to share with others
Thank you

Nov 06, 2007

Which Way to Turn? Enzymes?
by: SunnyDeeDee

I have heard of the enzymes to reduce fibroids also. I have 10 fibroids, the largest being 10cm and the smallest 2cm.

I am 38 years old and have not yet had any children. The operations that I am being offered simply shock me. Also I really think that once those doctors get me on the operating table they will simply do the easiest option for them... hysterectomy. I plan to have children.

I have bought my first pack of enzymes and although they are expensive and I have to take 30 capsules per day, they are worth a try.

Does anyone have experience of these enzymes working? I dont want to waste my money.