Comparing Progesterone ?

by Chris
(New Zealand)

Hi Wray

I currently use Profeme10 from an Australian Pharmaceutical company and have done so for several years. Here's their site http://www.lawleypharm.com.au/products.html

It says on my tube
10.0% w/v (100mg/ml)Cream and the tube is a 50ml tube.

I calculate this as 5000mg per tube, is that correct?

I am comparing this to your Natpro. 3x tubes for $69. Each tube containing 2000mg progesterone. Therefore 3 tubes has 6000mg in total.

Have I calculated this correctly?

I am finding the profeme is now really expensive and am looking for alternatives that I can afford! A big part of the expense was a large shipping charge. Can you tell me what the shipping charge for Natpro would be to New Zealand?
I would have to email my prescription for it to be included in the package too as in NZ progesterone is a prescription medicine. But that shouldn't be a big problem, just print and include in the package.

Sorry, if I am asking this question in the wrong place, I don't mind if you email me privately if that is easier.

Many thanks
Chris

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Apr 02, 2012
Comparing Progesterone ?
by: Wray

Hi Chris I don't mind you contacting me here. At least others in NZ get a chance to see what we've said. Your maths is correct, a 10% cream contains 50mg progesterone per ml of cream. And yes 3 tubes of Natpro contains 6000mg progesterone. I've looked at the site, I can't believe the cost! And I must admit I would never put it on my skin either, it has some pretty nasty ingredients. For instance the BHT they use as an antioxidant is oestrogenic, and the preservative they use is Phenonip®, see here. This is a mixture of all the parabens, ie methylparaben, ethylparaben, butylparaben, propylparaben, isobutylparaben in phenoxyethanol, this is another preservative. Both the parabens and phenoxyehtanol have been banned by Ecocert for use in natural and organic skin care. Some of the higher parabens have oestrogenic activity too, only methyl and propylparaben have GRAS status. If you wish to look into the other ingredients, Skin Deep is an excellent site. I can't tell you the postal cost, as I need your postal code to do so. I tried with just NZ entered but it didn't like it! I don't think we'd need your prescription, we send to dozens of people in NZ with no problems at all. Best is to take your prescription to the post office, in case it's needed. Take care Wray


May 06, 2012
buying natpro
by: Chris

Hi Wray

Thanks for your reply...only just managed to see it now. I just had a baby so everything else has got left behind for the past few weeks :)

I did query the Lawley pharmaceuticals about their other ingredients too and they said it was so minute as to not be an issue. And that it was totally necessary to keep the product from going off. They sort of didn't really take me very seriously and just said I was reading things from other sites where people wanted to sell their product. They forget that they too are selling a product of course! Anyway, I think I will be trying your natpro product as soon as I have finished my tubes of profeme...even with their other bad ingredients I can't really afford to stop using them up as they cost me a fortune, so I have to hope the oestrogenic ingredients isn't too detrimental, but it makes me worry when I used it all through my pregnancy too! I hope that it hasn't done anything really negative in that respect?

If you use the post code 3450 which is where I am in nz, are you able to give me a quote for the postage? I would probably just buy one set of 3 tubes to begin with.

I would still hope to add my prescription copy in the package just so that if customs does open it they won't stop it from coming through which they can do and then there is a lot of mucking around for me to get it, I can't just present it at the post office like you say.

Thanks for your help :)
Chris

May 07, 2012
buying natpro
by: Wray

Hi Chris How lovely! Things would get behind, I quite understand. The amounts are small in the other cream, but that's not the point. Why use them when there are other ingredients on the market which are as effective and don't have oestrogenic properties. I don't think you should worry, as the progesterone will be giving you protection from them. I've been on the site it gave me…..
Natpro x 3 $69.00
Shipping $9.72
Total $78.72
You could do it too if you like. There are other postage options, see here. I think it will be impossible to add your prescription, as the fulfilment house send out 2500 tubes a month. Plus doing many items for other companies who use their services. Somehow I don't think it's a service they offer! Take care Wray

May 10, 2012
dosage with no cycle?
by: Chris

Hi Wray

Thanks for your reply...no worries about the prescription, I'll just cross my fingers and hope it comes through...more than likely it will anyway.

That shipping fee is way better than the profeme company, which is $25USD !! god knows why it needs to be so expensive.

Anyway I am looking forward to trying the natpro product as soon as I can.

Also I am breastfeeding at the moment so I have no cycles what sort of dosage do you recommend for this situation. I am still using it everyday at the moment. At a dose of 200mg a day which is pretty much as high as I can afford to go...may have to go lower depending on finances though.

Do I need to use it everyday while i have no cycle ?

Many thanks
Chris

May 11, 2012
dosage with no cycle?
by: Wray

Hi Chris It should be used daily, as stopping it could cause bleeding to occur, and you're back to monthly cycles. A pity to disrupt this so soon. 200mg/day is a good amount, I take it you've found you need this much. I do recommend 100-200mg/day, but find after time most women seem to settle in between the two. I use 170mg/day, seems to suit me unless stressed! So if you want to continue with the 200mg/day, you'll have to use 6ml of Natpro. If you do begin reducing, please do this very slowly taking a few weeks to do so. Oestrogen dominance symptoms can occur if done too quickly. Incidentally I've found changing from one brand to another can also causes these symptoms to occur, so please be aware of this. It depends on how well the cream carries the progesterone into the skin. We do know it's well absorbed via Natpro as we run Saliva Tests tests. In case it helps, we have a chart at the bottom of our page How to use progesterone cream which compares the various measurements used around the world. Take care Wray

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