After 4 days I am getting relief so stay tuned

by DeVonnja
(Tampa, FL)

My name is DeVonnja Brown and I am 42 years young. I have been happily married for 12 years due to the fact that God has blessed me with an incredibly loving mate. I have 2 active children-Marcus is 9 and William is 4.

I realize that I began to struggle with this hormone imbalance in my late 20s but I thought that I could manage. It was just PMS is what I said and everyone goes through it so I can tough it out. Well, my symptoms began to get progressively worse over the years. I became more and more fatigued. I took vitamins for energy and I ate better. It only kept my head above water in functioning to do daily tasks. I still thought I could manage until most recently. I was having serious anger outburst. What was PMs started a week before my period, during my period and several days afterwards. I now only had a few days of feeling like myself. I would start to ache from my head to my toes-like flulike symptoms before my period. My breasts were extremely tender. My glucose would take weird dips which led me to think I was hypoglycemic.

The doctors could not answer my questions. I can not even list the symptoms because they were so many. I took the tests or quesionnaires to see if I had an hormonal imbalance. The last one I took said if you score 10 or above you have an imbalance. Well, I scored a 65. I thought really? I was desperate. I could have taken the saliva test to determine which hormones I needed but after reading the information on this site it became quite evident that I needed progesterone. I ordered it a week ago. I received it on Monday, August 15th.

I thought well why not wait till my period but I began to have severe symptoms again so I started to take it. I felt a difference in one day but I thought it was in my head. I have been on it for 4 days and I went to a softball tournament today. I am usually done by 2 games but I played 4 games without getting too tired so I knew then that it was the progesterone. I began to cry and tell my husband that I think you have your wife back. To God be the Glory that he sent me to you wonderfull people at Natpro. I can't wait to see what happens when I am on it for weeks.

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Aug 22, 2011
After 4 days I am getting relief so stay tuned
by: Wray

Hi DeVonnja Bless you for the kind words! I'm so delighted you've responded so quickly, this often happens if you use progesterone the few days before your period. This is when progesterone is dropping, and the ratio between oestrogen and progesterone can become skewed. In cases where the symptoms start mid-luteal phase or earlier, it indicates the corpus luteum is not secreting a normal amount of progesterone. This leads to the symptoms you experience, including the sore breasts. You might like to read this paper here. Ironically it was published way back in 1975, nearly 40 years ago. So for all those years women have been given analgesics for breast pain, and all they needed was more progesterone! It's such a pity you've struggled with PMS for so long, there's no need for any of us to. The aches and pains, the sore breasts etc are all caused by excess oestrogen in ratio to progesterone. There's more info on our page about Oestrogen Dominance. Excess oestrogen also destabilises blood glucose, and causes Insulin Resistance, which amongst other things causes fatigue. I'm rather relieved you didn't have the saliva test done. I've just answered a woman who says she's been told she doesn't need the progesterone, but more oestrogen, as her level was low. But what they didn't take into account was the ratio between the two hormones. That is the critical thing to look at, and it very rarely is. Although you've responded so positively and so quickly, please be aware oestrogen dominance can kick in later. It's not until progesterone becomes the dominant hormone that things settle down. So please read the link I've given above on oestrogen dominance. If it should occur, and you'll know when it does as symptoms come back, please increase the amount of progesterone you are using. Take care Wray



Aug 24, 2011
Lovely Post
by: Joy (South Africa)

What a lovely post DeVonnja, just love your .... "I am 40 years young"!!

As you continue to use progesterone you will go from strength to strength and wonder why you hadn't discovered it sooner!!! I keep telling Wray that I want to be buried with my Natpro tubes!!! It certainly is the answer to a multitude of health issues!!

Take care.

Aug 25, 2011
Lovely Post
by: Wray

Hi Joy I think your name is very apt! You always manage to convey much joy in your comments. Take care Wray

Aug 30, 2011
question for wray
by: Anonymous

Hi Wray,
It has been almost a couple of weeks and I am still feeling better. I am getting stronger. My cycle has begun and it seems longer which is a good thing. I have been struggling with sleep a little more than lately. Do you know why?

Thanks,

Sep 21, 2011
This gives me hope
by: Betsy

I struggled with infertility for years and learned about progesterone deficiency during that time but didn't understand about the wild yam cream vs the USP ones. I got pregnant out of the blue after 8 years. I actually felt better pregnant and assume this was the increase in progesterone that comes with pregnancy.

I'm now 38 with two children (1st adopted the 2nd the surprise). The baby is 2. I've always had irritability associated with my cycle but this has become worse to the point the original poster described. I have irritability, moodiness most of the month but it turns to rage sometime after mid-cycle. I'm raging at my children over the smallest things. I realize it while I'm doing it but can't stop much of the time (more able the closer to ovulation than period). I feel like a horrible mother. I homeschool my 5yo and think I'm making her hate school when she loves to learn & do schoolwork. I just ordered some of the progesterone discussed here and pray it helps. I'm also planning to make diet adjustments, get better quality multivitamin, b complex, etc. That I've read about. Please someone tell me this will help! It is comforting to hear that this one person had good results with the anger outbursts.

Oct 03, 2011
question for wray about how much does your daughter use?
by: Wray

Hi DeVonnja I think it's you? I'm pleased your cycle is settling down, as initially progesterone an upset it. The problem you're having with sleep is a symptom of oestrogen dominance. Progesterone is helpful for insomnia, see here. I suggest you try increasing the amount you're using and see if that helps. Take care Wray

Oct 03, 2011
This gives me hope
by: Wray

Hi Betsy I had anger outbursts too, rages I would call them! Plus a host of other symptoms, all gone now. So I do hope the progesterone helps you too. But please read the page I gave DeVonnja on Oestrogen Dominance, it's very disconcerting when it occurs, as people except to feel better not worse. I always recommend increasing the amount if it should happen. I also recommend a far higher amount than other sites etc, I've found anything less than 100-200mg/day merely exacerbates the oestrogen dominance symptoms. We do have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. The reason your symptoms have become worse is your age. From about 35 we begin getting anovulatory cycles, ie no progesterone is made unless we ovulate. These cycles increase in frequency until menopause, when the ovaries cease ovulating. But we don't stop making eggs until menopause, so our oestrogen level remains normal until menopause. If you're interested in Nutrition please read through this page, it gives a selection of websites all with good advice. Take care Wray

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