adrenal fatigue and low progestrone and hypothyroid.

by tiffany

Hello,

I am 30 years old and recently dx with hypothyroud, adrenal fatigue smd low progestrone. I'm lost, scared and don't know where to start. I ordered the labs on my own. I am hoping my doc will help me, but not sure. my major concern out of all this is my hairloss. Will it ever recover? Will I get my sex drive back, be able to have another baby? My set lab range for my progestrone was 76, the pg/e2 was 38. I am low cortidol in the morning, and low at night. Thanks for any suggestions.

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Mar 17, 2012
adrenal fatigue and low progestrone and hypothroid
by: Anonymous

Hi,
I certainly can sympathize with you. I don't know about a lot of this but can say without a doubt that the progesterone returned my sex drive. I am post menopausal though and hadn't had any drive for a long time. I saw a difference after about 2 months of using the cream and was on 100mg daily then. I am using 200mg cream daily now because of uterine problems. The sex drive is back though. I wish you luck and just know that the natural progesterone will help in many ways.

Mar 17, 2012
Estrogen Dominance and Teenagers
by: Anonymous

Wray,

I have a 15 year old daughter who is displaying signs of Estrogen Dominance including becoming resistant to Natural Thyroid Hormone. She gets acne on her chin during her period, which is heavy. Her temps normally fall in the 97 degree range.

What dosage do I use for a teenager? I first purchased the purest progesterone oil I could fine, just coconut oil and progesterone but it caused a rash. The company sent a replacement with grape seed oil and that has been tolerated well.

Any other considerations for teenagers?

Thank you.

Mar 20, 2012
adrenal fatigue and low progestrone and hypothyroid.
by: Wray

Hi Tiffany Please don't be scared, the body has a remarkable capacity to heal, given the nutrients it needs. Please have a vitamin D test done, it's vital for the normal functioning of all cells, not least the thyroid, see here, here and here. We do have a page on Hair Loss, it might throw some light on why you have it. Stress can cause it, it can fall out after having a baby, a lack of vitamin D and certain nutrients which are listed on the page, and excess androgens. Progesterone can help hair growth too, your ratio is very low. We've found from Saliva Tests we run that the ratio should be 600:1 to feel well. Progesterone helps libido, in fact we have many men using it for that. And dopamine is essential for a normal sexual response, has anyone checked your prolactin levels? How old is your child as your prolactin could still be high. Prolactin suppresses dopamine, with a subsequent drop in libido. Progesterone also helps the adrenals, in two ways actually. It activates the GABA receptor sites, GABA is one of the most calming neurotransmitters, so this lessens the stress response. Plus the adrenals first make progesterone before converting it to cortisol. If stressed it robs others sources, notably the ovaries, this upsets the reproductive system. In fact stress can stop ovulation, which means no progesterone is made, so a vicious cycle starts. We do have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. I recommend 100-200mg/day or more, dependant on symptoms. Take care Wray

Mar 20, 2012
adrenal fatigue and low progestrone and hypothroid
by: Wray

Hi there How kind of you to encourage Tiffany, it's what we all need. Take care Wray

Mar 20, 2012
Estrogen Dominance and Teenagers
by: Wray

Hi there It's very strange she developed a rash with coconut oil, but I'm glad the grape seed is fine. As she's basically an adult, I assume she's menstruating, I would suggest no less than 100mg/day, she might need more. It always depends on symptoms. Heavy bleeding needs far more, if seriously so I've found 400mg/day is needed. Then once it's calmed down the amount can be reduced very slowly over a few weeks, staying on each reduction for a few days. Progesterone can help Acne, but it's so important to avoid all sugars. Even those found in grains, legumes and sweet starchy fruit and veggies. Fructose, sucrose and glucose decrease SHBG by 80, 50 and 40% respectively, see here. With a drop in SHBG testosterone can rise, causing skin problems. Progesterone does raise SHBG, see here. Another nutrient she could try is N-acetyl cysteine, this inhibits the MMPs which cause heavy bleeding, see here. There's also more info on our Menstruation page. If she has thyroid problems it could be she lacks vitamin D, this nutrient is vital for all cells, not least the thyroid, see here, here and here. Plus a lack of vitamin D reduces the benefits of progesterone. Please have a vitamin D test done. For more info on vitamin D levels, testing etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. The minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Take care Wray

Mar 21, 2012
Teens/Estrogen Dominance
by: Anonymous

Thanks Wray,

Her Vitamin D level is at 65, so respectable.

What I've been reading about dosing for estrogen dominance is to apply the progesterone oil/cream on days 12-26 of her cycle. Is that correct?

And her progesterone oil only supplies 20 mgs per dropper, which I have read is the dose you are to give.

What is the dosage of the NatPro?

Thank you

Mar 25, 2012
Teens/Estrogen Dominance
by: Wray

Hi there Her vitamin D is good, but as she has thyroid problems, there's no harm in getting it higher. If your daughter has a 26 day cycle, then it's correct to use it from day 12. Progesterone should be used from ovulation or within the 50 hour pre-ovulatory surge that comes from the brain. Ovulation always occurs in all women 12-14 days before bleeding. We have more info on our page How to use progesterone cream. I feel it should be used for the 14 days to ensure enough progesterone is used. I've found the 20-40mg/day normally recommended is far too low, it often exacerbates symptoms. I recommend 100-200mg/day. The Natpro is a 3.33% strength cream, the amount to use is dependant on symptoms. Most women settle somewhere between the 100-200mg/day, I use about 170mg/day. Some go as high as 1000mg/day, see these comments here here, and these here. Take care Wray

Apr 21, 2012
Teenager/Estrogen Dominance
by: Anonymous

Wray,

I ordered some Nat Pro and have been having her apply 1/2 tsp twice a day.

I spoke previously about her odd reaction to the Progesterone Oil with just coconut oil, but we've had no problems with the Nat Pro and may I say it's a lot easier to apply the Nat Pro than the oil, do thanks.

She is doing well, period has lightened and strangely she is much more talkative and open to sharing things when on the progesterone cream, nice perk :-)

My question now is: how long does it take to reverse the estrogen dominance or to get rid of the excess estrogen? I have switched her laundry detergent/shampoo/conditioner, etc to clean products.

So how long to keep her on the cream?

Apr 21, 2012
Teenager/Estrogen Dominance
by: Wray

Hi there I'm so delighted to hear this! And that you've changed to more natural cleaning products. I wish everyone would, it puts such a burden on our systems, already overloaded with pollution. I wish I could answer your question, some women find symptoms reducing after 10 days, others 3-6 months, and yet others find it took a year. She is young so should respond quickly, I've found it's generally older women who have the problems. She seems to have responded to the amount you're giving her, but do watch for any adverse symptoms coming out of the blue. Continue with this amount until all signs have gone, then you could begin reducing very slowly, best to take a few weeks doing this. It's easy to tell if you've reduced too quickly as symptoms come back. I would hope that the progesterone will help get her system normalised and she won't need it. It's easy enough to start it again if need be. I don't know if you had a chance to read the acne page, but a lack of zinc can be one cause. A lack of zinc is often a result of high copper. Oestrogen increases copper, decreases zinc, progesterone does the reverse. High copper can cause depression, mood swings, anxiety, even psychosis. Please consider putting her on 15mg/day zinc, it might help too. Take care Wray

Apr 22, 2012
Teenagers and Estrogen Dominance
by: Anonymous

She does take 20 mgs zinc in her multivitamin, ty.

When you say reduce the dose after all symptoms have abated do you mean reduce the dose during day 12-26 of her cycle for a couple months?

Apr 23, 2012
Teenagers and Estrogen Dominance
by: Wray

Hi there I'm pleased she's taking the zinc. And yes, that was a bit obtuse of me. As she's using it following her cycle, once she feels stable, to begin reducing it. I normally say about 16mg per reduction, which is about 1/2 ml. She could do this for say the first week, and all being well, reduce again for the next week. Then the next cycle start on a lower amount and so on. Take care Wray

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